Hancock - Grading & Discussion

[benny]

Bob The Skutter wrote:

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I think the idea is that the more time they spend near each other the more power they lose. So he isn't necessarily helpless while she's there, he's just more vulnerable than he would be otherwise.

The only part of that I have difficulty with is the "not helpless" part. Shot, beat up and the like...sure seemed nearly helpless to me.

I guess the reason for being at opposite ends of country is that they have more leeway, and less temptation to see each other again. I know, given they can fly, and all that, it won't make much difference.

I didn't understand that part either, to tell the truth. They could just keep GPS tags on one another to make sure they didn't "run into" each other. But a wholesale move? Meh.

[Agent Richard07]

Did they ever mention how he makes money?

[Bob The Skutter]

benny wrote:

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The only part of that I have difficulty with is the "not helpless" part. Shot, beat up and the like...sure seemed nearly helpless to me.

Well look at Superman when he's exposed to Kryptonite, he still seems to take a beating, and still manages to get away. I don't see it as much different really.

I didn't understand that part either, to tell the truth. They could just keep GPS tags on one another to make sure they didn't "run into" each other. But a wholesale move? Meh.

He's pretty much homeless, living in a couple of trailers he could pick up and move anywhere. What does he care if he's more or less homeless in LA or NY?

[Bob The Skutter]

Agent Richard07 wrote:

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Did they ever mention how he makes money?

Given that he says he's trying to turn over a new leaf when the bank robber tells him he's gonna have to help out... I assume he just took it.

[Agent Richard07]

Bob The Skutter wrote:

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Given that he says he's trying to turn over a new leaf when the bank robber tells him he's gonna have to help out... I assume he just took it.

Makes sense, especially if he took it from bank robbers, muggers, swindlers, etc.

Seven of eleven wrote:

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For those who want to know now what happens: Michael Bluth tries to improve Drunken Superman's identity problem. It works! Michael Bluth's wife was Drunken Superman's wife as well for about two millennia and she also has superpowers. They are immortal unless they pair up and all the other superheros paired up and died so they are the last ones. Back in the 1930s, someone tries to mug Drunken Superman and Wonder Woman and Drunken Superman got hurt and got amnesia so Wonder Woman left him so he wouldn't get hurt anymore and they got their superpowers back. But now since they spent time together, they are losing their powers again. Climax with triumph through adversity and Drunken Superman leaves and moves to New York but they all remain good friends. It's arrested development.

I was just reading up on Charlize Theron. I forgot that she was on Arrested Development. I haven't seen that show yet.

[Aragorn]

The runtime is around 90 minutes. I wonder if reducing this R-rated dark comedy into a PG-13 movie took a lot away from it.

[benny]

Bob The Skutter wrote:

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He's pretty much homeless, living in a couple of trailers he could pick up and move anywhere. What does he care if he's more or less homeless in LA or NY?

The movie tries to make a lot of him not having parents and being abandoned in a hospital (dinner scene). It feels as though the script is being cruel to him by kicking him out of the city he knows-and a "family" who likes him. Maybe it's just me.

[OdoWanKenobi]

I just got back from it. I thought it was pretty average. The biggest problem with the film comes with the complete tonal shift halfway through. It starts out as a comedy (and a pretty funny one at that) then turns serious really fast. I didn't like the shift. The second half of the movie felt very slow, and confusing. I wanted to laugh. It wouldn't let me. I really wish they had continued from the "asshole superhero improving his image" storyline. It could have been a hilarious superhero parody. The second storyline just dragged it down.

[Autobot]

OdoWanKenobi wrote:

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I just got back from it. I thought it was pretty average. The biggest problem with the film comes with the complete tonal shift halfway through. It starts out as a comedy (and a pretty funny one at that) then turns serious really fast. I didn't like the shift. The second half of the movie felt very slow, and confusing. I wanted to laugh. It wouldn't let me. I really wish they had continued from the "asshole superhero improving his image" storyline. It could have been a hilarious superhero parody. The second storyline just dragged it down.

I really enjoyed the movie, and while I totally agree that the tone shifted halfway though, it completely surprised me and I thoroughly enjoyed it. The comedic movie I expected had quite the drama to it, and it was great to actually have some meat to it and not just popcorn fluff. I'm SO glad though that I did not know anything about Charlize Theron`s character, and loved it. And mmmmm she looked great, too!

[TGTheodore]

I went with two-and-a-half out of four. It wasn't what it wanted to be.

I didn't care that the tone changed as much as the jumbled way in which it faltered afterward. I think the reason it was relatively short is because they tried to save Acts Two and Three with editing.

Vince Gilligan's influence (X-Files writer) was there, but the overall script and storyline just didn't work well enough for me. The cast is the film's greatest asset.

I really wanted to love this movie, but it wouldn't let me.

--Ted

[OdoWanKenobi]

True. I did hear that there was a whole lot cut out of the movie to turn it into a more accessible Will Smith blockbuster. If they ever did a director's cut, I would be very interested in seeing it.

[Ethros]

Saw it this afternoon. Basically I share my sentiments with OdoWanKenobi, first half was good, second half not so much

But even then as I was watching the first half I felt like asking myself "have I seen this film before", as pretty much ALL the funny scenes in the first half were in the trailers that thanks to Hulk, Iron Man, Indy Jones etc I've seen about a million times now.
The whale, the train, the freeway, the head-in-ass, the French girl, etc, all of that I'd already seen in a sense in the trailers.

The second half I just didn't like, felt like it lost the plot and was meandering around for the last 45 mins. And the whole relationship between Hancock and the Theron character didn't really make any sense, or maybe I missed something-
Said that if they stayed together they'd lose their powers and stop being immortal, five minutes later they say the two of them were together for over 2000 years!


Thinking back it was pretty gash, definitely won't be buying the DVD

[Captain Craig]

Ethros wrote:

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Said that if they stayed together they'd lose their powers and stop being immortal, five minutes later they say the two of them were together for over 2000 years!

Any possible dialoge to suggest that something happened to change that status quo? The 2k they were together that was normal, then something happened that necessitate they be apart to survive.
I've not seen and don't plan to rush out and see this so spoil away.

[bigdaddy]

I think they should have called it "Black Superman, or would they have gotten sued?

[Agent Richard07]

Ethros wrote:

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And the whole relationship between Hancock and the Theron character didn't really make any sense, or maybe I missed something-
Said that if they stayed together they'd lose their powers and stop being immortal, five minutes later they say the two of them were together for over 2000 years!

Maybe they were together on and off in that time. That's what popped into my head. Besides, if they were together the whole time, they would have aged and died long ago. I think the only thing that didn't make sense, or should I say wasn't fleshed out properly was why Theron's character left Hancock behind all those years ago when he was attacked and held some sort of animosity toward him when they met up again in the present only to warm up to him again in the end.

Ethros wrote:

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Thinking back it was pretty gash, definitely won't be buying the DVD

I think this is one of the better movies to come out this summer. I liked it far more than I did The Incredible Hulk, Get Smart or Indiana Jones.