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Old June 23 2008, 04:21 PM   #16
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Re: Yesterday's Enterprise

This is one of my all-time favorite ST eps of all time of any ST series. I also love COTEOF. So there.
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Old June 23 2008, 04:24 PM   #17
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^Just a guess, but possibly it has something to do with the fact that most consider "City" to be one of TOS's best.

Exactly so. "Yesterday's Enterprise" probably would not exist if not for earlier shows like "City" and certainly doesn't come anywhere close to the quality of the TOS episode.

"Yesterday's Enterprise" is a great TNG episode. It's good "Star Trek." It is nowhere near one of the best things ever done for television; there's better stuff being produced on a weekly basis in many genres (not just or necessarily sf) right now.
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Old June 23 2008, 06:20 PM   #18
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"City" is an okay ep, but I tend to see it as a little overrated. It's never made clear how exactly Edith Keeler is related to the American isolationist movement or what her importance is, and so it seems a little strange that her death would automatically lead to the Third Reich winning WWII. It's also harder for me to enjoy Kirk falling in love with her, cause once that happens you know the rest.
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Old June 23 2008, 09:44 PM   #19
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It's never made clear how exactly Edith Keeler is related to the American isolationist movement or what her importance is...
Completely trivial where quality is concerned.
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Old June 24 2008, 03:58 AM   #20
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I disagree. It's not trivial when Keeler's role in history (specifically, her death) is the whole point of having Kirk fall in love with her.
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Old June 30 2008, 09:54 PM   #21
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^No, none of that. Just a a pointed tail and pitchfork.

And this is for Pioneer, who asked for elaboration:

City is my least favorite TOS episode simply because Joan Collins has always annoyed the hell out of me no matter what I see her in. Plus, after reading Ellison's book which included the original script, I found myself liking that version much better. I thought it would have made a good two parter, with Keeler recast, of course. The finished episode just seemed to be an abridged version after that.

The Alternative Factor is one of my favorites because I liked the mystery surronding Lazarus at first, then it turned out it was two guys, pne of which is from a parrallel universe (one of my all time favorite Sci-Fi plot devices). Of course, I was disapointed that we didn't get to see what distingushed our uinverse from the other one (Like we did in my all time favorite TOS show Mirror, Mirror), but that's okay. It was still a good episode.
Thanks. I understand. I don't agree, but I understand. I don't have a specific problem with Joan Collins as you evidently do. It probably won't surprise you that Joan Collins doesn't remember making CotEoF and is annoyed when ST fans mention it to her. She remembers The Shat, though.

The Alternative Factor just aired in its re-mastered form. It was OK but just OK. Certainly no epic masterpiece.
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