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Old March 6 2008, 07:28 AM   #91
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^ If you're up to date on TNG-R, I'd say just focus on getting up to date with Titan. No need to worry about DS9 spoilers -- we're moving ahead without necessarily giving away what happened before, as the DS9 books will continue to unfold at their own pace. All the references will be explained in context, though if you've read the TNG and Titan books that lead up to Destiny (including Christopher L. Bennett's upcoming Greater Than the Sum), you'll get the most out of the trilogy.
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Old March 6 2008, 01:03 PM   #92
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So, even though it's a big major crossover, will it be billed under the TNG heading? Or the Titan heading? or just a general Star Trek heading?
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Old March 6 2008, 03:08 PM   #93
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It's Star Trek: Destiny.
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Old March 6 2008, 11:08 PM   #94
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It's Star Trek: Destiny.
So we'll all be referring to it as... STD?
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Old March 6 2008, 11:16 PM   #95
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*shocking* I have to agree with Xeris for once. I could see Ezri as an Acting First Officer under circumstances of extreme duress, but not as a Captain unless you were to write a story set several years ahead, say, during Kim's time in the center seat of the Nova A-Class U.S.S. Rhode Island and/or Geordi LaForge aboard the Galaxy-Class U.S.S. Discovery as its C.O.

Is it possible that Captain Hernandez of the Discovery NX-02 is the source of the energy pulses or the clone of "Trip" buried in space by Archer?

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Old March 7 2008, 12:18 AM   #96
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NX-02 is Columbia. Following the space-shuttle homage pattern, Discovery would be NX-04 (Challenger would be NX-03, Atlantis -05, and Endeavour -06).
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Old March 7 2008, 12:26 AM   #97
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TNG-R - Up to date (read up to and including Before Dishonor)
DS9-R - Only read Avatar, books 1 & 2
VOY-R - Read Home Coming & The Farther Shore
ENT-R - Up to date (read The Good That Men Do)
NF - Only read book 1, House of Cards
SCE/COE - Only on book 2 of SCE & The Art of the Comeback of COE
SGZ - Not read anything yet but own the Pantheon collection
GKN/KE - Not read anything yet but own Diplomatic Implausibility
TTN - 2/3rds through book 1
VGD - Up to date (up to and including Reap the Whirlwind)
Wow, I'm doing pretty good keeping up with all the new stuff. Out of all those, the only series I haven't read everything is SCE/COE and I'm only one dead tree book behind on that one. I've bought Creative Couplings but haven't read it yet. The story collections always sit on my shelf for a couple months or so before they are read.

Guess I'll be ready for Destiny when it comes out...
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Old March 7 2008, 12:55 AM   #98
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You know, it's worth mentioning that "long thought dead" isn't necessarily the same thing as actually having died. I'm just saying.
That's very interesting that you say that. It seems to me that whenever people talk about how in Trek dead doesn't mean dead, they ignore that fact. When I count the times that a character in Star Trek has actually died and returned from the dead, I count two.

Spock.

Trip Tucker. (And this is a special case, cause we didn't see him die, we were told by characters 200 years removed, and most people don't even count the novels.)

But people, including writers, often mention other "deaths," even if the audience found out within the next scene of an episode that the character was still alive. I believe KRAD pointed out "The Most Toys" once with Data. (I'm sorry if I am misremembering).

Who has died?

Tasha Yar. Still dead. Alternate timelines don't count. And if they do, then I guess Quark, Odo, Rom, Nog, Ben Sisko, and Zek have all come back from the dead, since their Mirror Universe counterparts all died. Oh, and Jennifer Sisko, cause she was alive in the mirror universe.

Sarek. Still dead.

James Kirk. Still dead (except in the Shatnerverse).

Jadzia Idaris. Still dead. Dax survived, though. Does that mean Curzon came back from the dead?

Data. Still dead.


Novels:
Shakaar Edon. Still dead.
Kathryn Janeway. Still dead (though, admittedly, there hasn't been anything yet set after her death).

And the worst example. Ben Sisko? He never died at all! No one thought he was dead.

This isn't the Marvel Universe people. Stop exaggerating.

End rant.

(Oh, and I wish it were Captain America!)
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Old March 7 2008, 01:33 AM   #99
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*shocking* I have to agree with Xeris for once. I could see Ezri as an Acting First Officer under circumstances of extreme duress, but not as a Captain unless you were to write a story set several years ahead,
Well, this is set several years ahead, as Destiny takes place a good four years after Warpath.

(The word several actually means more than two or three but less than many, so by the terms you defined, Destiny's doing just fine, since it's four years ahead. )
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Old March 7 2008, 01:58 AM   #100
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It's Star Trek: Destiny.
So we'll all be referring to it as... STD?

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Old March 7 2008, 03:27 AM   #101
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That's very interesting that you say that. It seems to me that whenever people talk about how in Trek dead doesn't mean dead, they ignore that fact. When I count the times that a character in Star Trek has actually died and returned from the dead, I count two.
Scotty was killed by Nomad in The Changeling and then brought back to life by the probe.
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Old March 7 2008, 08:31 AM   #102
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Geordi commanded the U.S.S. Challenger in VGR "Timeless" not 'Discovery'...
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Old March 7 2008, 11:40 AM   #103
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Didn't McCoy died in the "Shore Leave" episode?
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Old March 7 2008, 12:15 PM   #104
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Julio Angel Ortiz wrote: View Post
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It's Star Trek: Destiny.
So we'll all be referring to it as... STD?
Do the three volumes have individual titles, or are they just Parts, 1, 2 and 3?
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Old March 7 2008, 12:25 PM   #105
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lvsxy808 wrote: View Post
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So we'll all be referring to it as... STD?
Do the three volumes have individual titles, or are they just Parts, 1, 2 and 3?
Book One : Gods of Night
Book Two : Mere Mortals
Book Three : Lost Souls
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