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Old January 22 2008, 11:26 PM   #76
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Re: One or two-off novelists who should come back?

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Xeris said:I think it belongs in the Shitnerverse continuity


Was that intentional?
Most definitely. And I'm not joking. If you read other threads where I have commented on those Abominations I nearly always use that moniker.
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Old January 23 2008, 09:18 PM   #77
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I hope K.W. Jeter is never given the chance to so much as put together two Star Trek related syllables after his astounding tome "DS9 Warped." The thing killed major DS9 stories until the relaunch.
What does "major DS9 stories" mean? It didn't stop the Millennium trilogy, which was major. If you mean it was the only hardcover DS9 book for a long time, well, that's true. It's also true that for a few years the DS9 books were the lowest-selling Star Trek books, and it's entirely possible that any DS9 hardcover released when Warped was published would have sold as poorly as Warped apparently did.

Oh, and for what it's worth, some of us liked Warped. That Warped could generate so much hatred in a universe in which Station Rage exists baffles me.
By major DS9 novels, I meant the larger projects that Pocket at the time liked to put into Hardcover books. The next big project WAS Millenium, which I sometimes forget is not part of the relaunch. I'm sorry that I misspoke there.

Everything I saw, though suggested that the poor results from "Warped" is one of the things that prevented DS9 event novels for quite some time--- until Millenium and A Stitch in Time.

For the record, I didn't like Warped because so many things were so hideously out of character. Now, I can no longer remember exactly what it was that was so out of character, as I've never reread it, and I tried really hard to forget that I HAD read it!

I seem to recall reading Station Rage and not hating it... but it really doesn't hold a place in my mind like Warped did. And then, there's the novel who's title I've forgotten that seemed to have a chapter break every other paragraph it seemed. I think it had a plot about gambling, but I just really don't remember it any more. So, yeah, there are some books that I don't like more than others, but by FAAAAAAAR the majority of novels that I have read I have enjoyed. (Even most of the Shatnerverse.)

Anyway, I still don't want Jeter writing Trek again. I'm sure he's a fine writer... just not for Trek.

I still always wanted to see what Asimov would have done with a Trek novel!
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Old January 24 2008, 12:03 AM   #78
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Re: One or two-off novelists who should come back?

Can I say that I would like D.C. Fontana to write a Trek novel again?
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Old January 24 2008, 02:42 PM   #79
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Can I say that I would like D.C. Fontana to write a Trek novel again?
Will a comic mini-series do?:

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Old January 24 2008, 03:08 PM   #80
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Old January 24 2008, 05:10 PM   #81
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Another vote for Simon Hawke.

(I liked 'Blaze of Glory' and 'The Romulan Prize')
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Old January 24 2008, 09:30 PM   #82
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I really loved The Romulan Prize. Is The Patrian Transgression of similar quality?
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Old January 25 2008, 01:06 AM   #83
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It's not Trek Lit, but she also wrote an episode of New Voyages.
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Old January 25 2008, 01:50 AM   #84
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Locutus said:
Anyway, I still don't want Jeter writing Trek again. I'm sure he's a fine writer... just not for Trek.
I generally like Jeter's work. Hell, I liked The Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy, and I don't know of many Star Wars fans who do.

I thought his Blade Runner novels (of which I've only read the first two; I never got around to importing the third and it's probably long out of print) were merely adequate.

I liked Warped. I've often said that it's a phildickian pastiche, but the reality is that it only deals with phildickian ideas in a Trek setting. (If it were a true phildickian pastiche, Quark would have saved the universe, there would have been drug use, and there would have been at least one sex scene. Warped bats 0 for 3 on that score.)
I still always wanted to see what Asimov would have done with a Trek novel!
I seem to recall that David Alexander wrote in his Roddenberry biography that Roddenberry wanted Asimov to write a Trek novel in the 1970s. Looking at Asimov's career, that doesn't make any sort of sense as realistic possibility. He wrote The Gods Themselves and some novella-length work in the 1970s, but he didn't return to full-length novels until the 1980s, and at that point he discovered best-sellerdom in his own universes. Maybe Asimov could have been pursuaded in the 1970s, but I think it unlikely.
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Old January 25 2008, 02:29 AM   #85
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I liked Warped. I've often said that it's a phildickian pastiche, but the reality is that it only deals with phildickian ideas in a Trek setting.
I had no problem with Jeter's "Bloodletter". Not memorable over time, but I didn't hate it. "Warped" was just so... turgid. Reading it was a real chore, and I usually steam through ST hardcovers.

I even bought all his "Bladerunner" sequels, but "Warped" put me off wanting to read them in a hurry. They got left at the bottom of a tall pile, where they remain.
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Old January 27 2008, 06:15 AM   #86
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I really loved The Romulan Prize. Is The Patrian Transgression of similar quality?
I think it is.
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Old January 30 2008, 01:43 AM   #87
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Old January 30 2008, 01:04 PM   #88
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