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Old November 29 2007, 06:28 PM   #166
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Re: Ratings are in !

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the fact that I saw practically no promos for this outside the Sci-Fi Channel... is anyone really surprised?
Little off topic but I saw promos for this on: NBC, USA, TBS, TNT, Spike (coincidentally during a commercial break during Razor). Plus there were a few radio advertisements and I saw posters up on a college campus I visited for it. I think it was promoted.
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Old November 29 2007, 06:51 PM   #167
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^ Exactly. If you want to see Season 4.5 ratings will have to go up more than likely. Didn't Moore say in an interview that Sci-Fi hasn't confirmed if they'll produce season 4.5 because of the strike?
He has talked about what he might do if the show doesn't get finished, but he has also said that it's highly unlikely that the rest of the season will be scrapped. I haven't seen any official word about SciFi not continuing the show because of ratings or the strike. Also, MrsRon has said that while anything is possible and that any show can get pulled for whatever reason, people are seeing problems that aren't there and are worrying needlessly.
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Old November 30 2007, 05:07 AM   #168
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Re: Ratings are in !

Razor was off by 14% year-to-year (last year's Saturday film on the comparable day drew a 1.4).
That was a pretty sucky rating last year, too. But that wasn't a BSG movie, so why compare them? Maybe both would have done better on a better night.
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Old November 30 2007, 05:12 AM   #169
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I'll be more interested in how the DVD sells.
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Old November 30 2007, 05:17 AM   #170
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Old November 30 2007, 11:51 PM   #171
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I thought that this was BSG's last season coming up anyway? Do the ratings really matter then?
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Old November 30 2007, 11:58 PM   #172
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It's mostly for bragging rights.
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Old December 1 2007, 02:28 AM   #173
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It's a good thing the ratings don't matter then.
That was true prior the writers strike, as a full final season of BSG was assured. Now though, ratings will most certainly have a bearing in whether or not they bother to pick up production on the last half of the year once the strike is over. The ratings matter, end of story. It doesn't matter how 'outdated' fans bleat the system is.
From a simple syndication perspective, SciFi would be fucking nuts not to let RDM finish the story. Especially considering they're only ~ 10 episodes away from the end.

Of course, maybe I am wrong and we won't get an ending. But that would almost be worth it for the irony alone. So close yet so far, just like TOS.
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Old December 1 2007, 02:33 AM   #174
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Warp Coil said:
the fact that I saw practically no promos for this outside the Sci-Fi Channel... is anyone really surprised?
Little off topic but I saw promos for this on: NBC, USA, TBS, TNT, Spike (coincidentally during a commercial break during Razor). Plus there were a few radio advertisements and I saw posters up on a college campus I visited for it. I think it was promoted.
Yeah, I think we should avoid going down the ENT route, which involves blaming everything else in the universe.

Fact of it is that people aren't watching. Maybe it's just too dark, too soapish, too frustrating? But really I don't care why they're not watching. It's their loss.
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Old December 2 2007, 03:41 PM   #175
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I think what we are seeing with the ratings are the result of two things...the odd airing schedule/seasons of BSG, and especially, that BSG has become too depressing and nihilistic for its own good.

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Old December 5 2007, 11:17 PM   #176
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These ratings are not good. But it doesn't matter. It may not bode well for any potential spin-offs, but they will finish the BSG series as planned.
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Old December 6 2007, 10:33 PM   #177
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These ratings are not good. But it doesn't matter. It may not bode well for any potential spin-offs, but they will finish the BSG series as planned.
And that's pretty much all that matters. :thumbsup:
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Old January 12 2008, 12:23 PM   #178
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Re: Ratings are in !

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I'll be more interested in how the DVD sells.

Latest DVD sales are not good. They've flopped

I posted a thread a few months back on how DVD sales were on a downward spiral, but it erupted into a flame fest when hardcore BSG fans couldn't face reality.

The Thread in Question had to be locked and people were given warnings
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Old January 12 2008, 09:50 PM   #179
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I didn't participate in that thread, but it seems you have a unique ability to rewrite history. What you actually said in your OP was:

The mini was a huge hit on DVD and S1 sold very well but there are rumors across many websites that the recent dvd sales aren't doing very well.
Emphasis mine.

Subsequently, people noted that you were talking about a "downward spiral" of a DVD (Razor) and set (S3) that had yet to be released in the US.

You never presented any sales figures until confronted by others who wanted something more than your bare assertions. You only spoke from your experience. I'll take it you don't know how statistics are reported in actual studies - whereas I do, having done work in public health statistics. While "anecdotal evidence" might mean something in terms of something like known trends in over or undereporting (let's say of incidence rates or prevalence rates of behaviors or diseases), saying "my friend" isn't convertible. Likewise the lack of discussion about a DVD / DVD series is no measure of anything except what people are choosing to discuss.

In your last post, by the way you started accusing Cogley of trolling, and you went on more than one short rant about your feelings. You were yourself, if you'll recall, one those warned by Neroon. It isn't as if that thread is not archived.

Here is what Neroon told you in no uncertain terms:

TheMasterofOrion - you yourself ought to know better than to post somewhat controversial claims in a forum on the subject without verifiable source material to back it up. It's no wonder you invite such enmity. You've been here plenty long enough to know what to expect.

Next time, provide a link.
Shortly thereafter you wrote:

dvdempire lists Razor as selling an all-Time sales Rank of: 12,761 (terrible)

One supposes this was your "evidence." You were, if you'll recall trying to use this figure to substantiate your claim, and you were also claiming this before the DVD had been released and you went so far to state


Razor is on pre-order, that's the way a lot of people buy their stuff these days. Pre-Order sales give an accurate measure of how a DVD is going to sell overall.
Well, low and behold, we can look up that same figure today at the same website. Let's see, shall we:

http://www.dvdempire.com/Exec/v4_item.as...archID=10411771

Current Sales Rank: 244
All-Time Sales Rank: 3580


So, from the time you posted 12,761 to today that's quite the improvement, isn't it? One supposes that this says a wee bit of something about your logic, or can you not follow your own argument? I guess pre-orders weren't so accurate after all, and since that was a key element of your position, well, that says something about the accuracy of your statements - using your own yardstick.

Yet, your statement then was

Razor just like Transformers, Sopranos etc is available for pre-order These sales often give a very accurate measure of how a DVD is going to sell.

and it's not looking very good
Yet there was an improvement of over 9000 points - which, I would add, would apply to that site alone, not overall sales, but I'll gladly use the logic of your own position to refute it on the grounds you yourself laid out and answer you on your own level. Also,if you can draw inferences from "your friend in Tokyo" I can draw mine from people I know locally, including several who have said that they have never seen BSG but are buying or renting the DVD's and are, in fact, enjoying them a great deal. I myself did not purchase a BSG DVD until just this past year.

I'd also point out that BSG 2.5 has improved slightly from the same source you cited, moving from 2185 to 2114. At the time you called 2185 "okay." In point of fact, far from representing a "downward spiral" this current number would be "okay" and evidence - using your own yardstick - are, in fact, stable, not in a "downward spiral."

When you originally posted your numbers, you also quoted BSG Mini at 1372 rank. Currently it is listing at 1334, which is a slight improvement. You called 1372 "pretty good." So, again, we see an improvement, and one that would, at worst indicate stable sales, not a "downward spiral."

BTW, you neglected to quote Season 2.0, which is currently at All-Time Sales Rank: 1313. So, if 1372 is "pretty good" in October, for the mini, is 1313 "pretty good" in January? Again, we see an improvement, and one that would indicate stability not a "downward spiral."

Season 1's all time rate is: 1019. If 1372 was "pretty good" what can we say about 1019?

You tried to used theofficialcharts.com as a source, but on a check we find it only lists the top 40 at any given time. How is this a measure of BSG's success or failure? Answer: It wouldn't be unless it was expected to be in the Top 40 in the UK. The same can be said of Play.com with respect to its results being confined to the UK. That's irrelevant to the overall sales. So, you really never provided an argument, and what you did provide in terms of concrete numbers was (a) selectively cited and (b) has shown, by a comparison of what you did cite, not a "downward spiral" but stable and slightly improved sales. I would, therefore, like to thank you for providing us a reminder of the locked thread so that I could do the necessary comparisons and see what sort of trend can actually be traced from October of last year to the present day in order to get a better picture - using your own yardstick that you so graciously provided.
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Old January 18 2008, 06:00 AM   #180
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The 4th season is already ordered, of course they will finish it.

Ratings don't really matter for a show like BSG anyway, since it makes huge money in DVD sales.
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