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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: Grade "Into the Dalek"
Eyebrows 34 28.57%
Good 57 47.90%
Average 19 15.97%
Bad 7 5.88%
Exterminate! 2 1.68%
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Old September 4 2014, 03:07 AM   #196
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Re: 8X02 "Into the Dalek" Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!)

I think the disliking soldiers thing not fitting with his past is probably the point - Pinky's going to be the way he realizes that he needs to be less *ahem* black-and-white about it. This will be another of the things he needs to rethink as he's settling in to his new self.
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Old September 4 2014, 05:03 AM   #197
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My guess is that Pinky is going to sacrifice himself at some point, which makes the Doctor rethink his philosophy. Plus, I think Moffat will want to do his own version of Earthshock.

That may also be the point at which Clara leaves in a similar manner as Tegan once did, after seeing too much death and destruction.

If so, the Doctor may return to pick up Blue Journey after he is forced to reconsider.

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Old September 4 2014, 12:15 PM   #198
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Also perhaps it's a bit early to judge Danny/Clara, Mickey and Rory seemed annoying at first but evolved into more interesting and heroic characters.
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Old September 4 2014, 01:26 PM   #199
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So if Danny is Pinky, does that mean Clara is Perky?
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Old September 4 2014, 01:43 PM   #200
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My guess is that Pinky is going to sacrifice himself at some point, which makes the Doctor rethink his philosophy. Plus, I think Moffat will want to do his own version of Earthshock.

That may also be the point at which Clara leaves in a similar manner as Tegan once did, after seeing too much death and destruction.

If so, the Doctor may return to pick up Blue Journey after he is forced to reconsider.

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I'm starting to get the terrible feeling Clara's last words to Twelve are going to be "I should have let you die on Trenzalore."
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Old September 4 2014, 02:14 PM   #201
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So if Danny is Pinky, does that mean Clara is Perky?
Clara is Brain.
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Old September 4 2014, 04:00 PM   #202
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Clara can stay another season as far as I'm concerned.

Never understood all the hate.
Me either and she plays a really good character. Plus, she looks like a young Elisabeth Sladen so that doesn't hurt.
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Old September 4 2014, 11:26 PM   #203
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I saw it yesterday, and I enjoyed it. (I marked it as 'Good').

Clara, my favorite companion next to Peri, was awesome. I look forward to seeing how the relationship between her and Danny Pink turns out. (Btw, the actor who portrays Danny Pink sounds a bit like Idris Elba...lol..another actor who is considered a 'lady killer' and portrays characters depicted as such).

This Doctor is dark, but isn't unlikable. I think his sacrificing of the solider was part logic and part payback since the soldier came off as one who wouldn't hesitate to shoot The Doctor if it was felt the timelord was in the wrong.

I know Missy will turn up in later episodes and be expanded on. And, I'm sure Journey Blue will be expanded on as well...since she apparently has some sort of sibling or relative relationship with Danny Pink.

Speaking of Journey Blue, I like how we get a hint that she is biracial on her mother or father's side since her onscreen uncle is a white Irishman. (DW is trying to show that mixed relationships is a normal thing, and I applaud them for that).

Looking forward to the next episode.

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*Yes, this episode reminded me of Eccleston's 'Dalek,' but the episode did its own original turn. And, as much as I think the Daleks are overused, I - of course - didn't mind this episode.

*The Doctor has always disliked guns and soldiers. This isn't something new to this particular Doctor. He butted heads with The Brigadier in "Doctor Who and the Silurians"...and used guns in his 5th incarnation.

Too, he's also killed before to survive (e.g. killing Shockeye in "The Two Doctors).
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Old September 4 2014, 11:41 PM   #204
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DW is trying to show that mixed relationships is a normal thing, and I applaud them for that)
They're showing it's a thing, neither normal or abnormal.
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Old September 5 2014, 01:08 AM   #205
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DW is trying to show that mixed relationships is a normal thing, and I applaud them for that)
They're showing it's a thing, neither normal or abnormal.
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Old September 5 2014, 01:22 AM   #206
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A bizarre hang-up that confounded me with this episode was why Clara didn't wear that brown leather jacket onto the Aristotle. Initially she wore it when she first came onto the TARDIS (from the school), and then (I thought) she was on the station without it. I was like, Why??? On second viewing I saw that she had already taken the jacket off in the TARDIS before going onto the ship (or station, or whatever it was). Regardless, I thought she looked good in the jacket and wish she'd kept it on (or put it back on) when they went onto the Aristotle (which might have been cool or all she knew). Instead, she's wearing a flimsy blouse and does look like she's cold in a few shots, with her arms wrapped around herself, as if to keep warm. Should have worn your jacket, Clara!
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Old September 5 2014, 03:40 AM   #207
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I don't hate Clara, I just find her... I dunno, meh. Slapping the Doctor does not endear her to me, even if she thinks he deserved it.
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Old September 5 2014, 08:17 AM   #208
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I don't hate Clara, I just find her... I dunno, meh. Slapping the Doctor does not endear her to me
It does to me! It was nice to see her finally asserting herself as the Doctor's equal and calling him on his bullshit. I shipped Clara/Eleven, but I like how them breaking up has caused Clara to come more into her own as a character.
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Old September 5 2014, 08:44 AM   #209
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Of course if The Doctor had slapped Clara we'd be having a very different conversation. I really like the new Clara, just wasn't completely sold on that particular moment.
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Old September 5 2014, 10:38 AM   #210
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Of course if The Doctor had slapped Clara we'd be having a very different conversation.
Because there is a physical power differential between men and women. Male size lends itself far more readily to physical abuse. We have a very different conversation when Clara slaps the Doctor versus if the Doctor slaps Clara, because Clara's slapping doesn't really hurt him, and because Clara is not capable of physically overpowering him.
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