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View Poll Results: Who had the worst romance subplot?
Deanna and Worf 24 33.33%
Kira and O'Brien 10 13.89%
Seven and Chakotay 45 62.50%
T'Pol and Trip 7 9.72%
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Old August 26 2014, 02:04 PM   #16
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Re: Who had the worst romance subplot

There's a strong Klingon warrior with a Klingon doctor husband in one of the Enterprise novels, with no suggestion of homophobia in Klingon culture.
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Old August 26 2014, 02:22 PM   #17
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I was never big on Worf and Troi. Just didn't see a lot of on screen chemistry there. By then I think everybody was getting tired of being jerked around on the whole Riker/Troi relationship. Throwing Worf in there was the death knell for that concept. By the time Riker and Troi were married in Nemesis, noboby really cared about them anymore.
I think the Troi/Worf thing started when he got his spinal cord crushed.
Yeah, the Troi/Worf pairing really didn't come out of the blue. There were several episodes in which a bond between them was developing, but it was a slow build ("Parallels" in particular showed an alternate reality in which they were married, and it was kind of after that they became an actual couple).

They seemed to split off-screen after Worf was assigned to Deep Space Nine or maybe even not long after the loss of the Enterprise-D. Heck maybe even his losing of both the Enterprise and Troi may have contributed a bit to his decision to come to DS9.
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Old August 26 2014, 02:41 PM   #18
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Re: Who had the worst romance subplot

Seven & Chakotay. Yes in that it came from absolutely nowhere, but more because there was actually an episode focusing on those two characters together only three episodes before Endgame (Natural Law) and there was zero indication of anything then.
The opportunity for the writers was there, but as usual on the show they seemed to squander it.
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Old August 26 2014, 02:47 PM   #19
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Re: Who had the worst romance subplot

You missed Scotty and Uhura.

And I suppose some would say nuSpock and nuUhura.
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Old August 26 2014, 03:03 PM   #20
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You missed Scotty and Uhura.

And I suppose some would say nuSpock and nuUhura.
I don't think there ever was something involving non platonic thoughts between Scotty and Uhura.
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Old August 26 2014, 03:09 PM   #21
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Seven/Chakotay was the worst by far. Utter shite.
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Old August 26 2014, 03:12 PM   #22
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Re: Who had the worst romance subplot

Actually, the worst romances I can think of involve specific episodes. The worst one in my opinion involves McCoy and Natira (he marries her because he thinks he's dying and takes off as soon as he has the cure).
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Old August 26 2014, 03:16 PM   #23
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Actually, the worst romances I can think of involve specific episodes. The worst one in my opinion involves McCoy and Natira (he marries her because he thinks he's dying and takes off as soon as he has the cure).
And yet she was a young caring first class babe. His decision, from a male human point of view is completely incomprehensible.
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Old August 26 2014, 04:33 PM   #24
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It ain't here but Sisko/Cassidy is my worst. Zero chemistry. No, make that negative chemistry.
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Old August 26 2014, 04:55 PM   #25
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Re: Who had the worst romance subplot

Nerys and Miles just was a weird, uncomfortable, forced, eww kind of relationship.

Deanna and Worf worked as there was some chemistry there, but I still wonder how well Deanna would have handled Worf's particular sexual needs.

Seven and Chakotay was stupid, and seriously forced. It felt like a big F.U. to all the Janeway/Chakotay shippers.

Trip and T'Pol's relationship worked for me, primarily thanks to the strength of Conner Trineer's acting ability.
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Old August 26 2014, 05:38 PM   #26
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Chakotay's crush on Janeway, definitely. The aching. The longing. The yearning. Especially when Q wanted to have a kid with her, because she's the MOST desireable woman in ALL of the known galaxy, apparently, Chakotay embarasses himself by telling her he was emotionally upset over it. Who is Janeway to Chakotay, even at this point? Their friendship wasn't even on the level of hers and Tuvoks. It was just embarassing and definitely mirrored Nurse Chapel's crush on Spock, from the original series. AND.............to the same result, as a matter of fact.
It is weird that even after Janeway stated that she only wanted them to be friends, he still follows her around like a lost puppy with big pleading eyes. Buddy, move on! Just not with Seven... Oh wait, never mind.
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Old August 26 2014, 06:43 PM   #27
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Re: Who had the worst romance subplot

Chakotay/Seven.

Came out of nowhere, did nothing, and there was no chemistry between them.

Worf/Troi had a tenderness that I liked, especially seeing a softer side to Worf. Kira/O'Brien wasn't so much a romance, more just a sense of intimacy between them due to the circumstances, Keiko obviously wasn't worried. Trip/T'Pol worked because of the chemistry between the two, shame then never gave it any proper closure.
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Old August 26 2014, 06:48 PM   #28
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You missed Scotty and Uhura.

And I suppose some would say nuSpock and nuUhura.
This would get one million votes from me. Its just so forced and everything about it is just off.
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Old August 26 2014, 06:50 PM   #29
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Did Kes and Neelix work for you guys?
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Old August 26 2014, 11:22 PM   #30
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There's a strong Klingon warrior with a Klingon doctor husband in one of the Enterprise novels, with no suggestion of homophobia in Klingon culture.
My problem with Jadzia/Worf isn't with there being a gay Klingon, at all, but people are who they are, and that particular Klingon has been shown in multiple instances where his sexual preference was displayed, and ALL of them showed him as interested in women. Perhaps the most telling of those, in my opinion, would be from "Deja Q": if ANYONE aside from Worf would have been in a position to know Worf's deepest sexual desires, it would have been Q - and he gave Worf a pretty woman on each arm.
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