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Old August 24 2014, 01:17 AM   #316
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Sunshine Days

Why did the penultimate episode of a 9 season series deal with The Brady Bunch?
It wasn't about the Brady Bunch. It was about watching TV with your family, forging connections to fictional characters and, in doing so, drawing closer to real people. It was about the value of stories, and how maybe the cultural critics who call TV a vast wasteland are perhaps not so close to the mark as is generally admitted. It was, I think, a very bold statement. The producers were saying, "We know how much this show means to you, and that it has become part of your life, and perhaps a tradition in your family; and that's not a bad thing (as long as you don't telekinetically launch people through your roof). We hope you will continue to enjoy the show as it goes into reruns."
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Old August 24 2014, 07:31 PM   #317
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I love that episode, personally, but I typically like every episode having to deal with the big story arcs of the show.

They call CSM a few names throughout the show. I think his official behind-the-scenes name was "Cigarette Smoking Man," but that doesn't mean the characters can't call him other things.

I suppose you could look at the credits and see how he's listed.
Coming late to the party . . ..

By coincidence, I was reading the novelization of the first movie a few weeks ago and, yeah, he's referred to as "the Cigarette Smoking Man" throughout. This struck me as a bit odd, to be honest, but I'm not sure what else the poor author (Elizabeth Hand) was suppose to do if that was what he was called in the script.
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Old August 25 2014, 05:08 AM   #318
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Re: The X-Files - First Time Watching

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I love that episode, personally, but I typically like every episode having to deal with the big story arcs of the show.

They call CSM a few names throughout the show. I think his official behind-the-scenes name was "Cigarette Smoking Man," but that doesn't mean the characters can't call him other things.

I suppose you could look at the credits and see how he's listed.
Coming late to the party . . ..

By coincidence, I was reading the novelization of the first movie a few weeks ago and, yeah, he's referred to as "the Cigarette Smoking Man" throughout. This struck me as a bit odd, to be honest, but I'm not sure what else the poor author (Elizabeth Hand) was suppose to do if that was what he was called in the script.
Well, they could have just called him CGB, or CGB Spender.

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That's true, but now that I've seen the finale, maybe it should have been about wrapping up some of these characters, like Walter Skinner, who got short shrifted in the finale. It seemed like doing an episode like Sunshine Days could have been done earlier in the season.
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Old August 25 2014, 07:09 AM   #319
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When I first saw the finale, I thought Skinner was walking to his death. The door closes behind him, and he's toast!
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When I first saw the finale, I thought Skinner was walking to his death. The door closes behind him, and he's toast!
Maybe Skinner got his closure in season 8, when he killed Alax. Alex was a thorn in Skinners side ever since the season 3 finale (or was it season two when Skinner got beat up in the bar) and then you had the nano it's in his body in he later seasons. I didn't think he was toast in the finale, but maybe some kind of closure would have been his dismissal from the FBI.
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Old August 25 2014, 09:59 PM   #321
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I love that episode, personally, but I typically like every episode having to deal with the big story arcs of the show.

They call CSM a few names throughout the show. I think his official behind-the-scenes name was "Cigarette Smoking Man," but that doesn't mean the characters can't call him other things.

I suppose you could look at the credits and see how he's listed.
Coming late to the party . . ..

By coincidence, I was reading the novelization of the first movie a few weeks ago and, yeah, he's referred to as "the Cigarette Smoking Man" throughout. This struck me as a bit odd, to be honest, but I'm not sure what else the poor author (Elizabeth Hand) was suppose to do if that was what he was called in the script.
Well, they could have just called him CGB, or CGB Spender.
Had that been established back in 1998, when the movie came out? I don't think so.
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Old August 25 2014, 10:42 PM   #322
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I feel like his name was revealed in the season after the movie came out, but I could be wrong.
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Old August 25 2014, 11:51 PM   #323
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I feel like his name was revealed in the season after the movie came out, but I could be wrong.
My impression is that that was also later down the road. At the time, the novelization was written, he was just the Cigarette-Smoking Man.
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Old August 26 2014, 12:05 AM   #324
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I feel like his name was revealed in the season after the movie came out, but I could be wrong.
My impression is that that was also later down the road. At the time, the novelization was written, he was just the Cigarette-Smoking Man.
You're both right. The movie came out between seasons five and six; the Smoking Man's "real" name wasn't revealed until the season six episode, "Two Fathers."
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