Bond 23 on hold due to MGM sale

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  1. Captain Craig

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    With the impeding sale of MGM this was to be expected.

    Bond 23 on hold
    Or it might be a blessing in disguise(re: bolded text) if your like me and not overly impressed with the Daniel Craig outings as Bond. Craig is a great actor, he's just not Bond and frankly the Bond movies haven't been Bond either, just Bourne-esque.

    If it takes a few years to get the real cinematic Bond back then so be it I say.
     
  2. Admiral Buzzkill

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    Except that won't happen. They're happy with Craig as Bond, as well they should be - most of the pre-Craig Bond movies produced since the early 1970s simply sucked.
     
  3. Professor Zoom

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    For the most part I agree.

    I'm very happy with Craig, I thought Casino Royale was great, Solace, however, was a little slow for me and not as compelling.

    That said, I like this new version of Bond.
     
  4. John Picard

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    WRONG. Read the books. The James bond from Roger Moore and onward was not the Bond of the books. Go back and read the original Casino Royale and you'll see. Bond became a complete farce with the stupid one-liners and was overladen with gadgets.

    If anything, Bourne copied Bond, and Craig is fantastic, being Bond as Bond was in the books.
     
  5. JacksonArcher

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    This information isn't really new. Like the article mentions, Peter Morgan basically said the same thing weeks ago. I really doubt that this delay (which is basically just the studio getting sold -- and not the rights issues that the franchise dealt with all those years ago) will result in a new Bond and a new creative direction. Craig is contracted for at least four or five films and the producers have issued every intent on continuing with Craig as Bond. Quantum of Solace might have had mixed reactions critically, but it was a financial success so I really don't see how this means we might see a change of pace.
     
  6. Pingfah

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    I seem to remember it being one long action scene, I didn't find it slow. But I also didn't find it compelling.
     
  7. Rush Limborg

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    Agreed. I like Craig's Bond--and we could see in Casino and Quantum that he is slowly-but-surely growing into the "sophisticated" gentleman-spy we know and love....

    It'll take a while, though.

    I'm glad they're working on a script. Looking forward to it, when it comes out.
     
  8. Hermiod

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    Both Craig movies have been pretty bad so far. Casino Royale because, for some reason someone inserted an entire reel from a different movie - some sort of period drama about some bloke in a wheelchair.

    Quantum of Solace because it's just a series of nonsensical explosions.

    Hopefully a delay will mean that they can rethink who James Bond is supposed to be and stop rejecting the things that made the early movies so popular.
     
  9. Aragorn

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    If enough time passes between movies, Craig might bail.
     
  10. Hermiod

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    While I'm not going to lay the blame for my dislike of the last two movies at Craig's door, that might not be such a bad thing.
     
  11. JacksonArcher

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    I doubt that's going to happen. If this sale takes anywhere longer than a year or so, you might have a case.
     
  12. John Picard

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    Yet another who hasn't read the original story :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  13. Kegg

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    I disagree with Craig, Craig is great.

    ...why am I the first person to make this all too obvious quip?

    Anyway, Casino Royale is the best Bond movie I've seen, easily. It's just a lot of cool fun and panache on a level none of the other flicks really grabbed me, but then I was always a casual fan at best. Quantum of Solace was a rather forgettable misfire, though. Here's hoping movie three finds its legs, and keeps Craig around for that matter.
     
  14. Hermiod

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    I don't give a flying frak about the original story. Books are not movies and movies are not books. A story that works well on the page does not necessarily work well on the big screen.
     
  15. sidious618

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    Craig will stay. He's been the best recieved Bond since Connery critics wise and his performance is always praised. Sorry, this won't be causing anyone to rethink the franchise.
     
  16. JacksonArcher

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    You put us all to shame, Kegg.
     
  17. John Picard

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    Based on your comments, you're the kind who thinks a movie sucks if there isn't a plethora of shootouts, lazer battles, or car chases. God forbid there be any exploration of the human element as well as character development.
     
  18. Hermiod

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    You really don't know me very well at all, then, given that my primary criticism of QoS which you edited out of the post you quoted was that it was just a series of explosions with no character development.

    You simply fail to understand the concept of pacing. The scenes in question simply went on for too long. Once we had established that Bond had fallen for Vesper, which we could gather from the first few minutes, the rest was redundant.

    It certainly did not help that Eva Green was not up to the acting challenge either.
     
  19. JacksonArcher

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    Agreed. Obviously Fleming's original works translated well to the big screen or James Bond would not have been the phenomenon that it is today.
     
  20. Hermiod

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    Interesting, therefore, that this particular story did not make it to the screen in anything like its original form for 53 years.