Planet of the Titans

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies I-X' started by tranya, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. tranya

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    Has anyone ever seen the actual treatment for this film? Has anyone ever put a PDF up anywhere?
     
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    From what I understand, there's very little information available about this film, least of all scripts and story drafts.

    I did see this link in another thread, which has pretty much everything concerning Planet of the Titans: http://www.3p2c.com/couldashoulda.html. The guy who wrote it specifcally talks about how much trouble he's had hunting down any kind of official documentation of the film.

    (apologies to the original poster of the link, I can't find where I saw it!)
     
  3. tranya

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    Great, thanks!
     
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    I've compiled a page at my own site about the project along with lots of production artwork that was done mostly by Ken Adams and Ralph McQuarrie.
     
  5. Maurice

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    That'd be this thread that I started.

    I notice you updated it and corrected some of the misattributions that I've seen.
     
  6. Ottens

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    Indeed! Thanks for pointing some things out that I'd previously gotten wrong!
     
  7. Maurice

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    My pleasure. I think you and I share an interest in setting the record straight as opposed to repeating urban myths!

    That said, the fact that your section on designing the Phase II Enterprise also featires images of the Adam/McQuarrie design doesn't help divide those often confused topics, and I encourage your disentangling them. :)
     
  8. Ottens

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    Well, I talk a bit about those designs in that particular article, that's why I have those images there. Besides people tend to associate them with "Phase II", and I like to make it clear that they weren't made for "Phase II" at all! (I hope that's clear enough from the article ;))
     
  9. Maurice

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    But WHY discuss them there? You have Planet of the Titans discussed under the Phase II section when it really should be a different "First attempts" topic or something like that. Putting it under a Phase II umbrella makes it seemed related, when it's not.
     
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  10. Ottens

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    Where else should I put the "Planet of the Titans" page? I'm can hardly create a whole separate section for just one article. That'd be a waste of space in my navigation bar. Besides, I don't think it would actually fit. ;)

    But let's not hijack this thread even more than we already have. I'd be happy to receive whatever suggestions you have for the site by email though!
     
  11. The_Beef

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    Wow. It's fascinating to see the direction it could have all gone. I'm definitely glad it didn't, because it sounds like the franchise would have been finished with it, but it's still interesting.

    Seeing that model of the Enterprise-refit has gotten me wondering. What would be the fan reaction if they were forced to accept a change that drastic? I mean, that ship is radically different from what we know. How on earth could they explain that as a refit? Seeing the reaction to the new model for Star Trek XI, I can't begin to imagine how harsh the reaction would have been to that.
     
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    Not as much history with the design at that point, so I think it would have been okay, especially if the modelmakers took it back toward Adam's design and away from McQ's SWishness.

    The big dif is in the interior, where the saucer was actually OPEN, so you could see down 10 decks through from the bridge. Kind of a cross between a french airport and MOONRAKER's space station, with diagnoal habittrails linking areas.
     
  13. Maurice

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    Of the McQuarrie paintings only one seem to portray the big delta XB-70 shape, so I think that was just a one off. The other paintings seem to show a narrowed delta closer to Adam's sketches, so I think that's more likely what we'd have gotten had the film moved forward.
    Which seems to me that there wasn't a lot of concern with design continuity or trying to explain how the TV series ship morphed into this new design. My guess is that the Enterprise seen at the start of the story pre-refit wouldn't have looked like the TOS ship anyway.
     
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    Now that might've caused a few ruffled feathers in the 1970s, much like the Abrams movie is doing today.
     
  16. Maurice

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    If you're talking about the Ed Gross one, it only has three pages on Titans and no synopsis whatsoever.
    Maybe, but I think fandom in general was less slavish to the particulars in those days, as they hadn't had 40 years to debate it endlessly!
     
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    Not percentage wise. I know TOS people who still refuse to sit through TMP, as a protest for things being changed when it was being turned into a movie.
     
  18. Maurice

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    You're possibly correct...maybe I just wasn't exposed to that type of fandom back in the day.