Neither will ever be in my top five of Trek films (you didn't ask but; TWOF, FC, TUC, Abrahms Trek and probably TVH orTMP depending how I'm feeling!) but both are unfairly treated, and I'd say in both cases what I like about them is that arguably the characters seem closer to how they were in their respective shows than in any other films. Well I had forgotten it, thank you all so much for reminding me a film so terrible that, as I recall, McCleod magically changes coats and swords in the middle of a duel!
Am I the only one who found it as funny as second? I thought it was hilarious. Though I believe the remake is much more straight horror. Speaking of horror/sequel-switching, doesn't Hallowe'en undergo a tone shift between 2 & 3? Feels a bit more sci-fi-ey.
That's not strictly speaking true, very often a darn good scare will prompt some nervous laughter afterwards! and I've seen some terrifying comedies...
Beat me to the punch. Science fictiion isn't a genre in the sense that a romantic comedy or a spy thriller is. It's a "genre" in the same sense as poetry or nonfiction. That is, the term tells us something about how the story is written, not about it's narrative goal. You can say a horror story wants to scare you or a romance wants to satisfy you with achievement of true love. Or you can say that a story is a Regency novel a la Georgette Heyer or a war novel or a Western. But the bare term "science fiction" only says there is something fantastic (i.e., doesn't exist now) that is noentheless supposed to be natural. If you insist on calling this information a definition of the genre, but dubbing the narrative genre "subgenre" just sows confusion I think.
Obviously you haven't seen The Cabin in the Woods. Or Shaun of the Dead. Or Army of Darkness. Or about a thousand others. Besides, since when was it forbidden to mix emotions? There's plenty of worthwhile humor in the best movies in many genres -- horror, action, romance, drama, you name it. And the best comedies have moments of seriousness. Really good stories run us through a gamut of emotions.
Exactly. Some of my favorite movies don't just work the same emotional nerve over and over again, but embrace several different modes and tones--all at the same time. WITNESS is a crime thriller, love story, culture-clash story, with plenty of humor, suspense, action, and romance. THE WICKER MAN is a paranoid thriller, horror film, black comedy, and musical. THE STUNT MAN is a twisty psychological suspense piece, a slapstick action-comedy, a mystery, a love story, a backstage drama, a playful examination of illusion versus reality, a political allegory, etc.
Oops. You know, I knew that I should have probably gone back and reviewed the whole thread, but . . . well, the cat was demanding attention . . . .
And while we're talking about comedy, Christopher, not everything needs to be taken at face value. Sometimes we're just making little jokes.
Ha!!! You want a follow-up to an existing movie, same cast, but new genre and tone? The Star Wars Holiday Special.