Scott Bakula co-authors minority report AGAINST MERGER

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by Dell Yount, Feb 19, 2012.

  1. Dell Yount

    Dell Yount Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I want to thank Scott Bakula for standing up for SAG actors
    who are AGAINST this awful new MERGER plan with AFTRA.
    Congratulations to these union members...
    Scott Bakula, Ed Harris,
    Joe d’Angerio, Anne-Marie Johnson,
    Elliott Gould, David Jolliffe,
    Valerie Harper, and Martin Sheen
    for leading the brave fight AGAINST MERGER.
    I am with you and will VOTE NO... In Solidarity!

    Sincerely,
    Dell Yount
    Screen Actors Guild

    SAG ACTORS…
    HAVE YOU STUDIED THE IMPACT OF THIS MERGER?
    IF NOT, HERE ARE CRITICAL FACTS YOU NEED TO KNOW:
    (Limited to the words allotted to us)

    PENSION & HEALTH

    SAG relies upon a “Feasibility Review.” While it concluded that a merger would be legal, no
    one ever doubted Mergers are legal. What about our benefits?

    SAG did not request any actuarial study regarding whether a merger would be financially safe.
    Why? They know, like the AFTRA Trustees, that “the merger of pension and health funds as
    large and divergent as the AFTRA and SAG plans raises complex and unique financial, legal
    and benefit issues which can only be addressed through a comprehensive analysis performed
    by the funds.”

    Despite the express statements in Appendix I to the SAG Constitution, and Board Resolutions,
    no study was conducted to assess the financial impact of a merger of Pension or Health Plans.
    Are your benefits safe? The SAG and AFTRA P&H&R Plans are extremely different. Consider
    merging these factors:

    • SAG pension accrual rate: 2% of earnings: AFTRA: less than 1% of earnings.
    • SAG early retirement penalty: 3% per year. AFTRA: DOUBLE: 6% per year.
    • SAG Plan 2 annual premium (family of four): $1,620: AFTRA Individual Plan annual premium
    (family of 4): $17,260

    The merger plan does not even attempt to reconcile these and other differences. Experts
    addressing the financial impact issues are convinced SAG members will likely suffer
    diminished future benefits.

    Highly respected pension and health experts Brucker & Morra have concluded:
    “Until a full and formal ERISA Impact Report of how to address and
    quantify these problems is completed, no one, not even pension
    experts, can intelligently evaluate or quantify the probable negative
    impact on the members’ pension and health benefits. The union
    merger is so inextricably interconnected with the plan merger that
    members cannot be asked to evaluate and vote on the Union Merger until
    issues relating to the Plan Merger have been resolved and concrete
    proposals formulated so the members can make informed choices.”

    The issue has always been the impact on SAG member benefits, when merged with lower
    AFTRA benefits. If the merger of unions is approved, SAG members will never have any
    right to vote to protect their benefits by preventing merger of the Pension or Health Plans.
    If you vote to merge the unions, you are removing a major hurdle to later merger of those plans.
    Once the unions are merged, individual members will have no vote and no recourse regarding a
    merger of Pension and Health Plans.

    SPLIT EARNINGS

    The merger Plan does not even address, much less solve our split earnings issues. Rather, it will
    codify the problem. If merger is approved, the stated plan is to CONTINUE to split your
    earnings, just like during the last 12 months. If the proposed merger is approved, without
    signatures from 15% of the approximately 158,000 members, you will have no further right
    to vote on this issue either.

    NEW DUES STRUCTURE

    If merger is approved, over 70,000 SAG-only members' base dues will increase from $116 to
    $198.

    BROADCASTERS - Preferential Treatment

    Broadcasters in the merged union can still work NON-UNION on basic cable networks (ESPN,
    MSNBC, CNN, CNBC, FOX NEWS, etc.), with drastically discounted dues compared to actors.
    Broadcaster work dues from $0 to $100,000 will be the same as actors at 1.575%. Broadcaster
    work dues from $100,000 to $250,000 can be drastically discounted to .274% (and capped at
    $250,000) with maximum dues of $2,184.

    Actors, however, will pay 1.575% on ALL earnings up to $500,000, with maximum dues almost
    400% higher: $8,073.

    BACKGROUND ACTORS - THREE VOUCHER SYSTEM

    The much maligned and poorly regulated Three Voucher entry requirement for SAG will
    continue.

    Merging unions does not guarantee more Background jobs. It can only result in more
    competition for the same covered jobs.

    BLOATED BUREAUCRACY

    There is no plan to streamline or eliminate duplicated services post merger. The new union will
    keep all 635 SAG and AFTRA employees. Nor is there a plan to equalize the existing SAG
    staff (3.5%) and SAG member (2%) pension accrual rates.

    CONVENTION

    Convention will be the highest governing body in the merged union - higher than the Board of
    Directors. Convention will have the authority to MERGE with more unions, set policy, control
    the Constitution, without giving the membership any direct vote on such matters.
    8 out of 10 National officers will be CHOSEN at Convention; not by direct member vote.
    The ELECTED President will be able to delegate authority to the Executive VP, also chosen by
    the Convention, not directly by members.

    ELECTED LEADERS MAY RECEIVE PAY

    The SAG Constitution prohibits paying elected officers and board members. The new union
    Constitution opens the door for payments, currently not permitted.

    MAJORITY NO LONGER RULES

    Hollywood represents the majority of SAG members, and the majority of revenue. If merged,
    when Hollywood has a majority, it must secure an additional 5% from other Locals,
    regardless of its majority vote.

    Traditionally, seats on negotiating committees were based on Division/Local earnings. That
    would no longer be true. The President can simply choose members with National Board
    approval. Those earning the majority of revenue on specific contracts will no longer be
    guaranteed majority say on those negotiating committees.

    EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION

    The unions have not exchanged actor contract details. We have no idea how-what-when-why AFTRA gives away residuals in made-for-basic cable shows or other concessions to management.

    AGENTS

    If merged, the Board, without a member vote, can alone decide whether agents can own or be owned by production entities. The SAG membership rejected the last agent agreement because of this potential conflict of interest.

    NEGOTIATING STRENGTH

    SAG and AFTRA have been negotiating jointly since 1981. How has that benefited SAG members? AFTRA has routinely undercut SAG interests. A merger of actors is all that is
    necessary. This merger merely handcuffs SAG.

    CONCLUSION

    The current merger plan solves almost nothing and adds too many inherent problems. VOTE NO and demand that our union leaders conduct the necessary due diligence to create an agreement which will not harm actors.

    In Solidarity:
    Scott Bakula, Ed Harris,
    Joe d’Angerio, Anne-Marie Johnson,
    Elliott Gould, David Jolliffe,
    Valerie Harper, Martin Sheen.
     
  2. sojourner

    sojourner Admiral In Memoriam

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    Sorry, I know what SAG is, what's AFTRA?
     
  3. ByrdMan

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  5. sojourner

    sojourner Admiral In Memoriam

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    Sorry, that didn't help. I was trying to get more of a cut and paste post out of Dell Yount. Why does he care if these groups merge? why did he feel it important to make a fairly spam post about it?

    Any idiot can google for the acronym. How about some conversation?

    Try googling "leading question" next time you get the chance.
     
  6. JiNX-01

    JiNX-01 Admiral Admiral

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    Based on the health insurance issues alone... SAG members would have to be certifiably INSANE to vote to yes!
     
  7. Dell Yount

    Dell Yount Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    "O Captain! My Captain!"

    Scott and I worked together on STAR TREK: Enterprise.
    I have tremendous respect for him as an actor and I truly
    appreciate the fact that he is standing up and fighting
    against the proposed merger of SCREEN ACTORS GUILD
    with A.F.T.R.A. ...just wanted to confirm to Mr. Bakula's fans
    that he is indeed a man of integrity and good character
    and I am thankful for his passion and leadership, as we attempt
    to convince ALL ACTORS that this current proposal
    is simply a bad deal for professional SCREEN ACTORS GUILD actors.

    We stand upon the shoulders of all the actors who came before us...
    actors who have REJECTED merger with A.F.T.R.A. over and over again.
    [​IMG]
    Before deciding to burn down the barn,
    let's make sure it's best for the horses
    ...and actors. ~ Dell Yount
     
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  8. ByrdMan

    ByrdMan Commodore Commodore

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    You should also google "leading question", 'cuz that aint it.
     
  9. sojourner

    sojourner Admiral In Memoriam

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    Quick someone get me a really big "rolls eyes" thread bomb.
     
  10. CorporalClegg

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    You should trying Googling "really big rolleyes thread bomb."

    :p
     
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  12. sojourner

    sojourner Admiral In Memoriam

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    ^That's actually pretty funny.
     
  13. Australis

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    Still have no idea what AFTRA is.

    <goes off to the real googles>
    <reads OP>

    Okay. I don't see what the problem is, beyond why would actors go to AFTRA over SAG. What benefit do they gain? Makes no sense to me.
     
  14. Temis the Vorta

    Temis the Vorta Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    All I know about this shit is, AFTRA is de debbel. :p
     
  15. Dell Yount

    Dell Yount Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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  16. Professor Zoom

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    I'm not sure which way my wife will vote, she's a SAG member... but man, that video is sorta condescending... not really packed with info, just... anger masked by condescension.
     
  17. Alidar Jarok

    Alidar Jarok Everything in moderation but moderation Moderator

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    This whole thread is a waste. I personally have no say what happens inside the SAG and I'm going to guess that most people here can't effect it either. This forum is for discussion and this thread is doing nothing to accomplish that. An actual attempt at argument or at least information given in a way that will make me want to read it is necessary. Unless that happens, this thread is essentially spam.
     
  18. JiNX-01

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    I'm a former union officer, and I can tell you, if I was in SAG I would be campaigning every free minute I had against the merger based just on the following:

    • SAG pension accrual rate: 2% of earnings: AFTRA: less than 1% of earnings.
    • SAG early retirement penalty: 3% per year. AFTRA: DOUBLE: 6% per year.
    • SAG Plan 2 annual premium (family of four): $1,620: AFTRA Individual Plan annual premium
    (family of 4): $17,260
     
  19. sojourner

    sojourner Admiral In Memoriam

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    Well I'm a former Confederate officer, so I'd fight you all the way.
     
  20. Professor Zoom

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    See, that's a much better argument than was offered in the video.