They are going ahead with a Justice League movie

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  1. JD

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    I know that. In quotes Millar seemed to be talking about the DC characters not translating well to live action because of things like the GL powers, and the wings on The Flashs' mask, and so I was just pointing out that Marvel has found a way to translate things just as crazy (Rocket and Groot).
     
  2. M'rk son of Mogh

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    ^^
    Yes. Marvel found the way.
    Who here has as much faith in WB doing the same? They don't know what to do with anything unless there's a Bat or an S on the heroes chest.
     
  3. JD

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    If they go the same kind of quality of writers and directors as Marvel sure, and let them do their thing sure. But at this point if they keep screwing around then they're going to scare off all the decent creators.
     
  4. theenglish

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    I don't know--I would rather DC characters just have good movies first. The writing for GL was Captain America television pilot bad. DC has great characters and properties--they need to invest in quality film makers and actors. I have heard people comment about the commercialism of the Marvel franchise, but the people who make the films do care about them and it shows.
     
  5. Gaith

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    Ah, but remember the shooting gallery scene from Men in Black. A talking raccoon shooting a laser gun? He's just an alien gunslinger doing his job; nothing unusual there. But a human using a magic ring to conjure up green force-field weapons here on Earth, and wearing a mask that in no way obscures his face? Or an Amazonian warrior from an Ancient Greece-era culture wearing another nation's flag symbols because a pilot from there visited her accidentally? Now there's deviance for ya. Yep, you read that right: I'm calling the Justice League weirder than the Guardians of the Galaxy. :p
     
  6. theenglish

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    I disagree. Marvel live action characters deviate from the comic book counterparts just enough to make them seem believable in the real world. Mainly, they are just de-powered, but the actors play them as real people. Similar to...Nolan's Batman. Other DC movies fall into the vein of Daredevil--camp--and not good camp. Play Wonder Woman like Hugh Jackman plays Wolverine, or Green Lantern the way that Downey plays Iron Man and it will work.
     
  7. sojourner

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    Daredevil was not camp. 60's Batman tv show was camp. You might want to check the definition on that.
    I think you're agreeing with me.
     
  8. Admiral_Young

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    "Daredevil" had it's issues but it certainly wasn't camp. That'd be the word I'd least use to describe the film :)
     
  9. CorporalCaptain

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    No, Daredevil was not camp. The closest thing was the playground scene, but no.
     
  10. theenglish

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    Point taken--although remove that sentence and I stand by the rest of my post.
     
  11. Captain Craig

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    Just for emphasis, agreed with the others Daredevil is not a camp film.

    The closest Marvel film the past decade that could approach being called camp is Fantastic Four and that's not camp but it has campy moments more than any other Marvel movie. In fairness, the characters have been portrayed that way in the comics so it was true to the source.
     
  12. sojourner

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    Spoiler for the end of DKR -

    "Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb!
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  14. Trekker4747

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    Yep, and Marvel has been so utterly perfect when it comes to depicting their characters as having limits.

    It's not like one of their characters, with his own movie franchise now, is literally a god or one of their characters has a healing ability once depicted in the books as having him recovering literally from only a few surviving cells.

    :rolleyes:

    Please, both Marvel and DC have their "problems" when it comes to their comic book characters being "too strong" or having too great a range of powers. Doesn't mean that they can't translate into a movie franchise that "depowers" them to a more reasonable level. Comic book Superman once was able to "blow out" a star like you and I blow out a candle. But I doubt we'll ever see him doing that in any incarnation of the movies. And, hell, there's a LOT that can be said about what Thor and The Hulk have gotten away with in their comics as being a god and an indestructible ball of rage but both work fine as movie characters.
     
  15. theenglish

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    ^^^^
    Exactly, just define how the characters limits function within the context of the story during the first chapter of the movie and you're fine.
     
  16. Dream

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    They worked because both characters were weaken for the movies. Thor was struggling after getting stabbed and Hulk was being overwhelmed during the New York battle in Avengers.

    I'm really curious at how Superman's power levels with be depicted in Man of Steel.
     
  17. Captain Craig

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    Rumor mill update #142

    So 2015 is off the table. Pushed back to 2016...right?
    This "report" is now saying not till after 2017, not in 2017 but sometime after. They speculate as late as 2021. :eek:

    A quote from Batman On Film from the JoBlo article:
    That seems to be how JoBlo is arriving at 2021 in their article title.


    I don't tend to agree. If MOS does spawn a trilogy I don't see any reason they can't start on JLA as it's own thing just as having had an Avengers film isn't stopping an IM3 etc.
    I know the structure was set up that way intentionally at Marvel.
    MOS could be ground floor though of a new DCU-CU though which GL failed to be. Instead of after 2017, how about by 2017? Film MOS2 then jump over to film JLA. MOS2 for 2015 and JLA by no later than 2017.
     
  18. Trekker4747

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    If they're going to do this right -the way Marvel did it- then this sounds GOOD. They need to give all the character they want in the Justice League movie their own "origin movie" and have it build up to the JL movie. So Superman's movie needs to do good, we potentially need a Batman "reboot" (soft reboot, probably), and possibly even a Wonder Woman, Aquaman or other JL member movies.
     
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    [LEFT]"In the year... twenty-twenty-one... If people still think superhero flicks are fun..."
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    ... But what about the Hawkman movie?!
     
  20. JD

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    While I do think the way Marvel did things is the best way to go about these kinds of superhero team movies, I do have to wonder if DC will purposefully go a different route just to avoid being compared to them.