The Dark Knight Rises Anticipation Station

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  1. JD

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    It's been more of a psychological journey, as we see Bruce learn what it takes to become a hero and accepting that role, and obviously the end will be him accepting that role.
     
  2. JarodRussell

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    Uhm, err, didn't he already do that in Batman Begins? And again in TDK?
     
  3. Admiral_Young

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    ^ The whole trilogy has been about Bruce's journey to becoming Batman. Each film is a step towards Bruce fully becoming and accepting being Batman. Nolan has pretty much said this himself in prior interviews.
     
  4. Frontier

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    From the guy who does the Marvel/DC videos...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THMHnWOcc6I

    LMAO

    Love it.

    As far as plots and such...

    I think Bruce will be broken physically. Perhaps not broken spine, but something significant. Why?

    Gordon's dialogue for one -- saying how Batman was "just gone" as if he disappeared, and that "the batman must come back" as if he's been out of action for a while and left Gotham.

    Then we see someone doing push-ups. It looks like Bruce. Like Bruce sporting some facial hair. Batman would not grow a goatee unless he wasn't being Batman anymore.
     
  5. Avalon

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    ^^^Well, Nolan could certainly have Batman badly injured and then jump ahead a year or five to a Gotham that's had to do without the Batman for all that time...
     
  6. RoJoHen

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    And that's fine. I'm not saying the story can't have an ending. But as far as epic conclusions go, there's a huge difference between "Harry finally battles Voldemort!" and "Bruce Wayne finally accepts his role as Batman!" :p
     
  7. Captaindemotion

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    David Brent IS Batman!!!!!!!
     
  8. RoJoHen

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    I want to see Batman with a handlebar mustache.
     
  9. Captaindemotion

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    ^ Cricket-Batman
     
  10. JarodRussell

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    If someone destroyed Wayne Enterprises, Batman would be forced to retreat.
     
  11. Allyn Gibson

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    There is a third option -- Bruce achieves what he set out to do as the Batman and he retires. I'm expecting Nolan to bring the story of his version of Batman to a definitive close. I don't see him leaving his Batman open-ended.
     
  12. JD

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    I could see that too, if they decide not to leave it open ended. Even if Nolan wants to do a real ending, I kinda wonder if Warner would let him.
     
  13. JarodRussell

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    What does Bruce want? He can maybe manage to get all of the big gangster bosses in prison (he almost did that in TDK, and it probably worked because he managed to keep Harvey Dent's public image intact). But would he then be perfectly fine with things and "retire"?
     
  14. Captaindemotion

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    ^ That sounds a little too pat to me, a little like the resolution Bruce found at the end of Forever. Can't see Nolan doing it.
     
  15. Admiral_Young

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    We've already been told what Bruce wants...to no longer have to be Batman. This is what I mean about him being in his formative years. He's still naive and not experienced enough to think that he can "give up" being Batman. He's yet to realize that he'll never be able to do that, or have any sense of real peace. Bruce was taught a very serious lesson in "The Dark Knight" by the Joker...mainly there are consequences to his your actions.

    I believe that "The Dark Knight Rises" will absolutely force Bruce to accept being Batman...or he'll be broken. Rachel Dawes was very much his anchor. He was deluded into thinking because of what they talked about at the end of "Batman Begins" that he would be able stop being Batman. The loss of Rachel and the clinging to that delusion...well that's going to be something interesting to see carry onto the next movie.
     
  16. HaventGotALife

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    I have always thought that this ends with a death that will bring about the end of the crime wave in Gotham. However, how that happens, I don't know. I just thought that his physical presence would be at an end, but he would know that Batman had made a difference. Heading towards the light sky and seeing the bat symbol doesn't do anything to dispel this notion within me.
     
  17. Captain Craig

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    What if the movie ends with a fade to black then pull back and open up(with a tag that says "sometime in the future") on a teen kid talking to an older gentleman while watching a computer screen of the exploits we just saw. The older gent says, "And that Terry, is what being Batman is about...you up to it?". ;)
     
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    I agree with almost everything there, except what I highlighted. By this I mean that my inclination is to think that, for the Dark Knight to rise, the Dark Knight must exist at his fullest, which to me would require Bruce to find fulfillment in being the Dark Knight. To me, the Dark Knight will not have risen unless Bruce embraces being Batman completely. Ergo, he must be at peace being Batman. This is what I'm looking for.
     
  20. JD

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    That's pretty much been my interpretation as well.
    As for the ending, I could almost see it ending with him encountering Jason Todd for the first time, and deciding to train him. Basically he fully accepts his role as Batman, and decides to pass on what he has learned throughout the trilogy to someone else. And if they are going to incorporate any Robin into the series, I think Jason Todd's story would fit in the best.