A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Out Of My Vulcan Mind, Apr 21, 2011.

  1. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

    Out Of My Vulcan Mind Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Sibel Kekilli did porn, too.
     
  2. Ayelbourne

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    And has been recognized and awarded for her acting talent long before GoT was even announced.
    I still think Bianco is the most likely candidate.
     
  3. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    Yep, although I think she's the weakest cast member in Game of Thrones. But her work in Germany is probably a lot better.
     
  4. Kosh Naranek

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    Well, now I have finished all of the Dunk and Egg stories. I quite liked 1 and 3. 2 was okay.

    Bloodraven's involvement in the last story made me stupidly excited when all of those ravens showed up in last night's ep.
     
  5. Brendan Moody

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    I like Kekelli's performance in GOT a lot. She's the only reason the transformation of the character into yet another "strong woman" doesn't annoy me.

    Moving a discussion that's getting a bit spoilery out of an episode thread:
    That wouldn't surprise me. Apparently he found writing the Red Wedding in the books so unpleasant that he did all of the rest of A Storm of Swords first, then finally doubled back to do those key chapters.

    Even if he didn't want episode nine, though, he could have done something more meaningful than "The Bear and the Maiden Fair." "And Now His Watch is Ended," for example, although Benioff and Weiss did a fine job on that one by themselves.
    Yeah. TV Ramsay's penchant for psychological games just doesn't ring true to the setting and the character background, where brutality is less nuanced. Someone like Qyburn might toy with his victims, but I don't see where Ramsay would get that kind of twisted intellectual curiosity.
     
  6. Kosh Naranek

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    The Ramsay in the books used fear of torture and his father's position to do as he pleased.

    There was some cleverness to him, but he lacked restraint and did not exhibit much forethought.

    He seemed clueless as to how his actions were undermining the family's position. The Northern Lords probably never loved Roose before he was made paramount lord in the North, but knowing his heir was a pyschopath that hunts women with dogs probably spurred many of them to look for ways undercut the Boltons (loyalty to House Stark aside).

    Ramsay was already infamous for starving Lady Hornwood to death, and his penchant for hunting women for sport seemed to be known.

    The show seems to be styling Ramsay like Roose. Roose is brutal and smart. Ramsay (in the books) was brutish and lacked the mental faculties to rule effectively.
     
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  7. JD

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    I just looked up Kekilli on Wikipedia and found out she was in the film Head On, which I watched long before I'd even heard of the ASoIaF books. It's a German/Turkish movie about a German Turkish couple who meet and marry as a to get her away from her strict parents after a pair of failed suicide attempts. It's not exactly a happy movie, but I enjoyed it.
     
  8. valeriefrankel

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    Free Game of Thrones ebook through the 23rd!

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  9. Venardhi

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    Thanks! Curious what your observations are and if they differ much from my own handful of read-throughs of the series.

    You might consider some more polished and composed cover art though, and I would be happy to oblige just out of my own enthusiasm for the series. Especially in this day of ebooks and "people also liked..." thumbnails, an eyecatching and professional cover can make a world of difference.
     
  10. Dream

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    HBO should have shown the Red Wedding this weekend! Damn holiday! :scream:
     
  11. Klaus

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    It's not on Sunday?!?! Frak!! :mad:
     
  12. Brendan Moody

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    Not fun for fans, but probably a good decision: "Blackwater" got season-low ratings airing over the Memorial Day weekend, and you don't want that to happen to the series' single most pivotal and shocking episode to date. With luck, the buzz from episode nine will push the episode ten audience to another new high.
     
  13. Roshi

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    Whaaaaaaaaaaat? No ep this Sunday? Le fuck!
     
  14. Lonemagpie

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    What about the UK? Do we have a week off too?
     
  15. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

    Out Of My Vulcan Mind Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Yep.
     
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    Hey come on now, wedding/massacre preparations take time. :p
     
  18. Roshi

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    The royal wedding isn't for this season, I suppose?
     
  19. Venardhi

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    No. Probably early-mid next season. Then build to Tyrion's trial and other such things for the climax.
     
  20. Brendan Moody

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    George R. R. Martin is writing episode 2 of next season, so I'm hoping we'll get Joffrey's wedding then. Of course, if that's the plan, they're either going to stretch the trial out unmercifully, or reach the end of A Storm of Swords early and do some of the overlapping chapters from Feast and Dance to round out the season.