Independence Day (Discussion/Grading)

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by SG-17, Oct 18, 2009.

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Rate ID4

  1. Excellent

    27 vote(s)
    41.5%
  2. Above Average

    21 vote(s)
    32.3%
  3. Average

    10 vote(s)
    15.4%
  4. Below Average

    4 vote(s)
    6.2%
  5. Bad

    3 vote(s)
    4.6%
  1. SG-17

    SG-17 Commodore Commodore

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    Considering that ID4 is on TBS right now I decided to bring up a discussion thread for it.

    This isn't the first time that I have watched it, I originally saw it on July 4th back in '99 I think, but I've seen it at least 5 times now. Of all of the films that I have watched, it is one of the few films that I enjoy every time I see it.
    Even though it gets a lot of flak from critics, I believe it is one of the best films of the 90s, right alongside Stargate, Jurassic Park, and Men in Black.
    What are the opinions of other members here?


    Also you can tell it was intended to be a sequel to Stargate by the design of the ships and aliens, as well as the score. Especially near the end when Will's character is in the crashed ship approaching the mothership, it sounds distinctly Stargatey.
     
  2. Greylock Crescent

    Greylock Crescent Adventurer Admiral

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    It's definitely an entertaining and enjoyable film. And there's no arguing its popular success. But "Best of the 90s"? I don't think I'd quite go that far. Braveheart, Shawshank Redemption and Truman Show immediately spring to mind as superior 90s films (and I'm sure I'm leaving a fair few out).
     
  3. Mr Light

    Mr Light Admiral Admiral

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    ID4 is a ridiculous piece of LCD entertainment but I love it dammit! It's a cherished childhood memory warts and all.
     
  4. kes7

    kes7 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I loved that movie. Fun to watch, beginning to end.
     
  5. Harvey

    Harvey Admiral Admiral

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    A fair few? Oh, Gods, yes.

    On the subject of Independence Day, I'll give it an excellent. It's exactly what it promises to be--a throwback to the disaster movies of the 70s, a throwback to the alien invasion movies of the 50s, and a throwback to big ensemble movies that aren't made any longer. It works on all three accounts, so ignoring any deeper analysis of a film that doesn't try to be anything other than shallow fun, I'll leave it at that.
     
  6. MeanJoePhaser

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    Exploitive, manipulative trash. But enough about THE TRUMAN SHOW...

    ID4 was fun for its time. But I have no desire to rewatch it in the forseeable future.
     
  7. Mike Farley

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    ID4 is one of those movies that most people loved when it came out, then somewhere along the way it became "cool" to hate it, now it seems that it's become cool to admit that you liked it all along.

    I love it. It's a big, dumb, action-y, roller coaster movie and doesn't pretend otherwise.
     
  8. the Dagman

    the Dagman Commodore Commodore

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    ID4 is a movie that does exactly what the director and producers set out to do. So if you rate movies by how well that criteria is achieved, then I would give it an excellent. You cannot fault a movie that has over the top acting and unbelievable plot points when they were going for over the top acting and unbelievable plot points. So to rate it's acting to films that had Oscar caliber acting is like comparing your average Picasso to works of classic realism. Or judging a professional jewel thief on how well he follows the law. He may suck as a law abiding citizen, but he's a fantastic thief.
     
  9. Forbin

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    Yeah, fun to watch, but not a brain in its head. Great effects, yadda yadda.
    Definitely not gonna go down in film history, though.
     
  10. 1001001

    1001001 Serial Canon Violator Moderator

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    Excellent.

    One of the best "popcorn movies" of all-time.

    Ridiculous and fun as all hell.

    "What do you expect us to do?"

    "Diiiiiiieeeeeeeee!"

    :techman:

    :lol:
     
  11. bigdaddy

    bigdaddy Vice Admiral Admiral

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    A grade B from a B movie. :)
     
  12. Lonemagpie

    Lonemagpie Writer Admiral

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    I always thought it was great fun - I'll give it an "excellent"

    Nowhere near "best movie of the 90s" though. That'd be Carlito's Way
     
  13. captcalhoun

    captcalhoun Admiral Admiral

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    it's excellent. ethnocentric American jingoistic popcorn nonsense. but excellent nonetheless.
     
  14. JiNX-01

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    I gave it an average. I watch whenever it's on (and I have the DVD), but I wouldn't rate it among the best (in any decade). It's just standard-issue fun.
     
  15. FPAlpha

    FPAlpha Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    ID4 falls directly into the "It's so bad that its actually good" category so you can't judge it with one poll.

    If it would be judged as a movie alone it would have to be near the bottom.. bad acting, cringe inducing scenes, plotholes galore..

    However it's the perfect movie to get together, have a few beers and nachos and laugh at the stupid one liners, bad acting and bad plot.. kind of like most Emmerich and Michael Bay movies.
     
  16. zakkrusz

    zakkrusz Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Awesome and epic movie with a good cast and plenty of humor and action and is just incredibly fun to watch. One of my top favorite films, and I have the movie on DVD as well.

    "Welcome to Earth" :devil:
     
  17. Holdfast

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    Absolutely agreed with both of you. It is a perfect gem of a movie; delivering exactly what it intends. I love it. It ain't great art, but it IS great entertainment. :cool:
     
  18. Zulu Romeo

    Zulu Romeo World Famous Starship Captain Admiral

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    It still grabs my attention even today. That in itself makes it a good movie in my books. :bolian:
     
  19. Alpha_Geek

    Alpha_Geek Commodore Commodore

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    IMO, ID4 is the direct descendant from the plethora of B Sci-Fi stories of he 50's. You know the type; Zontar, the thing from Venus, The Blob, etc. If you look at it in that respect, it's a fun romp and an enjoyable show.

    If you're looking for major character development and a thought-provoking story, there are other offerings that have those. :)
     
  20. RandyS

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    Yep.