What Does It Mean To Be Happy?

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  1. The Boy Who Cried Worf

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    Whenever I find myself in one of my unpredictable depressed moods like I am now I spend way too much time pondering the reasons for my general unhappiness in life. And lately I have been coming to one inescapable conclusion. I really have no reason to be so unhappy

    I have had very few bad things happen to me in my life. I do suffer from depression and social anxiety which limit my life, but because of that I have also spent a lot of my life avoiding a lot of things that would cause me discomfort. I have health problems and I live with a good deal of mild discomfort from time to time, but nowhere near the real chronic pain that a lot of people have. Right now I have serious financial problems which would make anyone unhappy, but i am hardly alone on that these days. Being depressed just seems like more of a habit with me.

    One conclusion I have come to recently is I agree with Siddhartha Gautama aka the Buddha who said all life is suffering and the reason for that is desire. The source of my unhappiness seems to be my insistence on telling myself all my life that I have to have very specific things and experiences to be happy and if I don't have them I must go into depressions over it. Because I am not the person I think I should be that means I can experience no happiness being something else.

    So I am curious if people consider themselves happy, but more important why or why not. Is happiness actually being in a good mood most of the time or is it more achieving some spiritual or material goal. Are you happier pursuing some specific goal or happier simply accepting what you have in life? If you are unhappy do you think you can become happy just by re-oriented your desires or priorities?

    This weekend I will be going to the comic-con and I'll even be volunteering, something that scares me, but I am still doing it. That should be a purely fun weekend with no real reason for deep depression or soul-searching. Yet I know I will become depressed this weekend for a million silly reasons all related to me telling myself this isn't as great as it should be.
     
  2. Jan

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    Then don't. To a large extent you can control your own moods by noticing when you're depressing yourself and consciously changing what you're thinking. So it's not as wonderful as it should be? You can think about being proud of yourself for having volunteered instead.

    As for being happy...no, it's not being in a good mood all the time, I think it's more of a general contentment. Doing nice things for yourself and for other people can contribute to that.

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  3. RandyS

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    For the meaning of "happy", look in the dictonary under "subjective".

    It's different for everybody.

    You need to find what makes you happy, and focus on that.
     
  4. Miss Chicken

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    I think it is very hard to explain what happy is and how to be it.

    I am by nature an optimist. I don't know why I am and why other people with similar life experiences to me are not.

    I had a very unhappy childhood but I didn't tend to get depressed. Even when every thing around was getting me down I always had a wonderful world to retreat to, one that existed in my room, my books, my toys. It is the same things that tend me me comfort now. Often if I am miserable I take out my favourite childhood books and either read them or look at the pictures.

    The only serious depressions I have had as an adult is post-natal depression after the birth of my second son, after the Port Arthur Massacre, and when my best friend died and when my father died. However after these deaths I simply would try to remember the good times we had together and that would cheer me somewhat.

    The depression after the Port Arthur Massacre was the worst and lasted the longest. I think this was because so many people around me were also depressed by it and I had no way of cheering myself up. The depression lasted several months. I was fixated on certain aspects of case I gave more money than I could really afford to the Port Arthur Appeal. I worried about the man who lost his entire family (wife and two little daughters), and I was concerned that I might be called for jury service when the murder trial started, even though the chances of this were extremely small. Once the trial was over I think it got easier for most Tasmanians.

    The only advice that i can give is to try and find a healthy and positive form of comfort abd to seek hekp when if it gets too bad.
     
  5. An Officer

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    Happiness is getting enough sunshine, exercise, and the right nutrients. Get those wrong, and all the rest life has to throw at you becomes far more difficult to deal with.
     
  6. Mr. Laser Beam

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    For me, happiness is this. And, more specifically, THIS.

    Even more specifically, THIS!!!!!
     
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  7. sidious618

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    Your depression is something you discuss a lot on here. Are you seeing a professional for assistance? If not you should.
     
  8. Holdfast

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    Happiness is deciding who you are. Of course, first you have to decide if you want to decide who you are. And before that, you have to decide if you need to decide that. Whatever the answer, it involves a lot of falling leaves.

    (Obscure enough for you? Jolly good...)
     
  9. Mr. Laser Beam

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    When you are happy, you will be good.
    You will be happy when you are good.
     
  10. Mr. B

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    Perhaps it's like porn... hard to define but you know it when you see it.
     
  11. Jadzia

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    Dark Journey, I think the emotions you feel are more important than trying to define "happiness is..." in any objective sense.

    If I could grant you one wish, to make one change in your life, that would improve the way you feel with some permanence... what might you wish for?
     
  12. sojourner

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    Here's a little song I wrote, you might want to sing it note for note....

    Don't worry, be happy!
     
  13. melancholymecha

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    I know what you mean, I have social anxiety too & for example, I would think that I would have fun volunteering at a comic con but I wouldnt b/c Id spend all day fearful, anxious & depressed b/c of all my self conscious emotional baggage and insequerities that I bring everywhere with me.

    I really cant tell you if Im happy or not. I feel happy but thats becasue Ive had the good fortune so far of being able to avoid things that make me anxious & spend all my time buried(escaping) in my hobbies. I dont work yet but when i do I expect I'll start becoming depressed again. I was when I used to work a long time ago. Yeah sorry, my post was probably no good for you. :alienblush:
     
  14. Kestra

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    This first confused and then depressed me. Thanks, Holdfast.
     
  15. Zulu Romeo

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    To answer the thread title in one glib sentence: being happy and contented means a lot to me. Well, to a certain extent it does. :) Well, so long as being in such a state doesn't harm others, of course. ;)

    I wouldn't consider myself happy in the sense of being content right now, although a lot of this does have to do with personal circumstances. Without going into too much detail, the last 12 months or so have been very turbulent for my family, my work, and my personal life. I have had to face some tough questions about where I stand and what I want to do with my life at times, and often I have wondered whether I really do know what I am doing. I have sought counsel from various people in this regard, from family, to work colleagues, to people I consider my friends.

    I don't know if I have any cut-and-dry solutions to being happy, as I've yet to find them. Get a new job which might bring psychological satisfaction at the cost of material wealth and assets? Find the right partner while risking the rollercoaster of heartaching lows and blissful highs? Spend more time with family even if it means adding an extra personal burden? Resort to short-term happiness routes and other excessive pleasures while ruining mine or other people's lives?

    Right now, I guess it's all to do with whatever seems like a good idea at the time. Personally, in any other circumstances I might be happier. Or sadder. I don't know.
     
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  16. The Boy Who Cried Worf

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    Your actually on to something there. I know I feel a lot better when I am exercising. Before and after I have too many negative thoughts about it, but during I feel really manly and that's always a boost. When I have too many bad carbs I become like a sugar addict on an emotional roller coater. When I have too few good carbs I become a grouch. My albino like skin will testify to how much sun I get.

    Sort of. I take meds for depression, but they have always had a limited impact on me and don't do anything for my social phobia. I can't afford to see a therapist right now, but I talk to someone at a County Wellness center every week. I miss my old therapist though.

    I need to decide, but I don't think I want to decide, because I'll probably make the wrong choice, and then I am stuck being the wrong thing all my life. By not deciding I am miserable, but I get to retain the illusion that my choices are still open.

    I honestly don't know. I guess it would be not to feel the fear of life that I do. I just look at so much of the outside world and think I can never do that, I am not equipped to handle that kind of challenge.
     
  17. sidious618

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    Sure you are, you just don't know it yet.
     
  18. The Boy Who Cried Worf

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    I think there are certain parts of me that have outgrown certain aspects of my social anxiety. I'm ok if I have a specific task I have to accomplish so I can kind of go on auto-pilot and not have to deviate from a script too much. As I wrote in another post the comic-con was actually really fun, but I did have some intense anxiety moments. I never would have gone to a convention like that when I was younger though so part of it is a maturing process. The one thing that is still hard for me in a lot of those situations is to accept that I will still be "the quiet one" in any social situation. I won't talk unless someone talks to me first, and even then it takes awhile for me to move past the stammering phase. It makes me feel bad in an environment like that because so many people are networking and talking to their favorite people, and I just stand back and observe.
     
  19. The Boy Who Cried Worf

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    Perhaps. I have done a lot of things that you wouldn't associate a person with social anxiety doing. Even many years ago when I went away to college for awhile I was much more outgoing and even came close to considering myself "normal" even during a time when I felt my anxiety was worse than it was today. I just have very little confidence in any real ability that I have. I compare myself with the outside world in much too unrealistic a way.
     
  20. CaptainStoner

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    I think that "happiness" is less exciting than it sounds. Which is not to dilute it. We often have this sense of it being an external thing, or a goal to reach, a "pursuit" of happiness.

    Desire may be the root of suffering, but I would say it is added desire. Natural desire comes and goes. It is adding to that natural state - you've got to have this, or that, or this much money, or whatever. Somewhere in a book called Chuang Tzu, I remembering reading:
    "Look! The fire is burning already. There is no need to add to it."

    I also think, having had a lot of depression stuff over the years, that it may be the opposite side of the coin to Egotism. Both are a form of self-centeredness, one positive, the other negative. Another 2 cents.