Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1st

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

Why don't you use multi-quote?

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

Why can't laws be phased in? from 2013 it affects X sector, from 2014 in addition to affecting X sector, it now also affects Y sector.

And how is my argument unsatisfactory.

Would a clean bill pass the US House or Representives or not if it was presented today?

And can you say with 100% certantity that the Tea Party members wouldn't want to see if they can delay the PPACA again in 2014?

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

Never really thought about it.

Why? Should I?

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

Of course not.

But the argument is one sided.

Read this, it's NOT just the TEA PArty.

http://www.caintv.com/fyi-democrats-have-demanded-co

The DEMS are the ones that WILL NOT compromise. That's a simple fact. They won't even talk.

So go ahead, blame the Republicans if it makes you feel better.

Even the left wing media is catching on.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthe...osi-over-shutdown-youve-called-them-arsonists

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

Lets throw something out there, would the Republican's be willing to compromise on gun control in the USA if the Democrats asked for it be a condition of talks on a compromise?

And I'll let a mod explain why people should really use the multi-quote function.

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

Compromise with the Hard Right and the Tea Party would be like agreeing to let them crash your car into a brick wall on the condition that they won't bother anything in the glove compartment.

And then they'll still go on national television and complain that the liberals wouldn't let patriotic Americans see what's in the glove compartment.

Screw that.

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

That would be unconstitutional.

I haven't been posting here long. If it makes it easier to read, or is preferred by rule or the mods I'm fine with it.

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

Yes, considering I already gave a verbal admonition and two infractions to another poster in this very thread for not using it and spamming excessively, and I gave you a friendly admonition about it just yesterday. Not to mention several other posters have mentioned it as well. So it doesn't really pass the smell test to say you were unaware of the requests.

All your posts above are just from this page, and consist of numerous one-liner drive-by comments in consecutive posts or a series of posts in short order that could have been consolidated into one. You are monopolizing the entire thread, drowning out discussion by sheer volume of posts, many (if not most) of which are lacking in debatable content.

Infraction for spamming. Comments to PM.

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

So that would be a no, then.

Besides I might be mistaken but doesn't the USA already have some controls on guns (which can vary from state to state), i.e. permits, waiting times, background checks, etc..

Compromise is about both sides not getting excatly what they want, have the Republican's placed anything on the table that they are willing to compromise on in return for the Democrat's compromising on the PPACA?

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

My apologies. I just saw this.

A poster made a video and showed me how to use it.

I guess it's a conservative thing.

I'll use it in the future.

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

Yes they have.

Four of them that weren't even considered by the Senate or POTUS.

The last just had delaying the ACA mandate for one year just like the businesses received.

But that's just unreasonable I guess.

It looks like the Democrats will only accept exactly what they want.

Don't know if I should have waited for more posts before I responded or not. Sorry if I should have.

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

I've read plenty about it. No matter how much simpler the Fair Tax or any other tax reform might make the tax system, some bureaucrats somewhere (maybe not as many as now, but some) still have to administer it. And nothing I've read about the Fair Tax movement says otherwise.

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

:facepalm:

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

It boggles the mind, doesn't it?

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

Yes, abolish the Department of Energy - without even knowing what it does. Great plan.

Nope. As the existing gun control measures in place have proven.

You aren't mistaken.

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

That touches on a great point, really. Conservatives love to go on about what they'd abolish, given their druthers. It's interesting how they tend not to know anything about what it is they would get rid of. "I don't know what the government does, but I'm sure it's not good, so trash it!" It's like ignorance is a point of pride for some people.

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

"Close the government!"

::hours later::

"What?! Closing the Federal government includes federal parks and federal medical research/treatment facilities?!"

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

All Yanks or any other right-winger has to do is Google or Wiki the Department of Energy. It's not a colossal blow-by-blow description the length of a Tolstoy novel, but the Wiki page on the DOE gives a pretty detailed and very good rundown of what the department does and the responsibilities and power it wields as a part of the executive branch of the federal government.

Most conservatives and libertarians who decry and despise these government departments don't give details of why they want them abolished, only that it's "more bloated Big Government bureaucracy," "it's not in the Constitution" and so forth and so on. It all boils down to government = bad thing and not in the Constitution = even worse thing. Little more than that. It's just partisan bumper sticker slogan politics for people who live on sound bites.

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

It all boils down to "get rid of all government, except the parts we like."

 

Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

Always. Government is the enemy of the people!*

*Except for those parts that aren't and help me become wealthy and powerful and expand my personal influence while in office.