OT: My SPIDER-MAN novel reviewed

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by Christopher, Feb 11, 2008.

  1. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    Blowing my own horn a bit... the review site The Trades recently posted a very flattering review of my Spider-Man novel Drowned in Thunder. The money quotes:

    The full review is here:
    http://www.the-trades.com/article.php?id=10010
     
  2. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

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    Congrats! If Drowned in Thunder is half as good as your X-Men novel, it ought to be a very fun read.
     
  3. Allyn Gibson

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    I'm assuming this book is set in pre-"One More Day" continuity? In other words, Peter and MJ are still married?
     
  4. Baerbel Haddrell

    Baerbel Haddrell Commodore Commodore

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    I very much hope so! I bought the book but the Dallas-like magical reset button put me off so much that it spoiled my appetite for reading this book a bit.
     
  5. JoeZhang

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    Sounds good - I'll pick up a copy tomorrow.
     
  6. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    Absolutely. In fact, it's set in pretty much the same timeframe as KRAD's and Jim Butcher's Spidey novels preceding it -- after MJ begins her theatrical career but before Spidey gets organic webshooters and joins the Avengers.
     
  7. LightningStorm

    LightningStorm The Borg King Commodore

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    I don't follow Spider-man (really at all) but I know the basics. Did they do that because of the movies? That just strikes me as... well, odd.
     
  8. JD

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    Wow, that's pretty cool Christopher. I actually saw this this morning, but I'm in the middle of three books right now (Michael Chrichton's Sphere, Forged in Fire, and Glass Empires) and I've got about 4 books waiting to be read, so I didn't get it yet. But after hearing this I'll probably pick it up when I get to my next gap in my reading list.
     
  9. JoeZhang

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    Let's not get onto the stingers... :p
     
  10. Christopher

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    Yes, that's why they did it. But it's not at all unusual for comics to adopt elements from mass-media adaptations thereof. After all, a lot more people will watch a TV show or a movie than will ever read a comic book, so if you want to bring in members of that audience, it helps to give them something familiar. Superman comics in the '40s adopted many elements of the radio serials: the Daily Planet, Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, Kryptonite. Batman comics in the '60s changed to bear a closer resemblance to the Adam West sitcom. When The Incredible Hulk was on TV with Bill Bixby wandering the country, the comics had Bruce Banner wander the country in the same way. And so on.

    What's odd in this case is how little they did with it. They did a storyline in which Spidey went through a bizarre metamorphosis and emerged with organic webbing and an enhanced spider-sense. Then they totally failed to follow up on that in any way whatsoever; in most subsequent stories, we didn't see him using his mechanical webshooters, but we saw no evidence that he wasn't, and the changed spider-sense (basically the ability to communicate with insects, even though spiders are arachnids) was never explored or mentioned again as far as I'm aware. And less than a year later, they did a story that put him through another bizarre metamorphosis in which he emerged with stingers coming out of his wrists and a differently enhanced spider-sense (which was closer to how spiders' senses actually work, and actually along similar lines to how I depict the spider-sense in the novel). It was as though the first transformation had never happened. And they barely bothered to follow up on the second transformation because they then got caught up in the whole Civil War business and then decided to do this whole massive revamp and wipe all of it out of existence.

    But I outlined Drowned in Thunder before most of that ever happened. Actually the initial transformation and his Avengers membership had happened at that point, but I decided to set the novel before that, because I felt a "classic" solo-Spidey story would be better (plus I'm not that familiar with the Avengers, and Marvel wasn't keen on crossovers in the novels anyway), and because I really wanted to write about how the mechanical webshooters worked. Plus I think the whole idea of having spinnerets in the wrists is kind of silly. Why the wrists? And wouldn't extensive webslinging leave Peter desperately lacking in fluids and proteins after a while? I was happy to steer clear of that whole business.
     
  11. Ktrek

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    Congrats Chris! I love your Star Trek material but I can't stomach Spiderman. So, sorry I'll not read it even though I am one of your fans. That said I am still happy you have connected with the Spiderman fanbase.

    Kevin
     
  12. phrog

    phrog Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Great review. I've been eyeing this one for awhile... and with my abject disgust at the contrived and horrible mess they've made with One More Day... it'll be nice to have another story in the timeframe when he was still a character I had interest in.

    Post-One More Day Spidey has very little draw for me. A weak, hokey retcon due to a lack of creativity and a weird editorial fixation. I pa-tooie in Quesada's general, hacky direction.

    But I digress... congrats again Christopher. I look forward to it.
     
  13. Turtletrekker

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    I agree. There's nothing "new" or appealing at all about this whole Brand New Day thing. In fact, it's more like "this is where I came in".
     
  14. Baerbel Haddrell

    Baerbel Haddrell Commodore Commodore

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    Great! Thank you, that is good to know.

    I have nearly finished "A Burning House" and I am wondering now what to read next, Spider-Man or the new Excelsior novel. Maybe I will toss a coin. :)
     
  15. veritech

    veritech Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    What is the premise of this book?
     
  16. Geoff

    Geoff Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Oh dear... I think "webslinging" has inadvertently just become my new favorite euphemism for something else entirely... :devil:
     
  17. MichaelS

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    I can see the Daily Bugle's headline already ... "SPIDERMAN GOES BLIND!"
     
  18. JWolf

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    Any chance to get Drowned in Thunder out as an eBook? I'd buy it if it was. But I cannot find it at the moment as an eBook.
     
  19. Christopher

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  20. Baerbel Haddrell

    Baerbel Haddrell Commodore Commodore

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    Thank you for this link! I have read two thirds of this book now and found reading your interview very interesting.

    I intend to go into more detail after I finished your book but so far I can already say, I enjoy it immensely. It is Spider-Man at its best and makes me painfully aware again of what this series has lost.