OP do you not enjoy diversity? You seem to be recoiling from that which is not you or, presumably, your father.
I have but I had to point out that he was going to extremes and putting things in there that I didn't say. I also want to add: People this is my opinion, I asked a question. I did not say this was how it had to be, this is just my opinion. My opinion doesn't mean shit to any of you, so why take it as such an insult? Do you really care if you fall into my category of what I perceive to be a few definitions of man?
Say, this is a bit of a side track to the topic, but I just got to thinking. (a rarity to be sure) What's the sub-context in movies with women helping men with their ties?
I'm trying to figure myself out in context of this thread: -- I can rebuild a engine, frame a wall, lay a floor, shingle a roof, haul block and lumber, a constant workaholic, go days without shaving, foul mouthed, and don't mind getting dirty and working up a sweat. -- I'm, a stay at home dad. I also do the cooking, laundry, and most of the sewing for the house, help with the diapers, read to the kids, and have zero issue walking down the feminine hygiene aisle at the grocery store. Hate the smell of beer, but I'm addicted to tea. Hate football and NASCAR but I love anime. And I vote democrat Am I a man, our do I just not give a fuck about gender stereotypes Don't worry about what is a "real man" and just worry about being a good human.
You sound more like Jay Gatsby, and he got tons of tail. He's a real man, some would say a Great man.
If you reread my post you'll see that I wasn't talking just about you. I was talking about life experiences in general. I love it. Oddly enough, I taught the book to an English class and when I asked them to cast Gatsby they said they wanted to cast me.
It's just easier for someone standing in front of you to tie it, than to tie it yourself cracking your neck to look down at it. I solved this issue by not ever wearing a tie for the last 15 years.
:raises hand: That's me. I'll do it, doesn't bother me any. I suspect it'd be harder to tie a tie "backward" as woman would have to do it facing the man. I think it's a "mothering" thing as well, in showing how the woman would "care for the man," also goes along with the "men are idiots" trope.
It's not backwards if you never need to tie it forwards. It's just tieing something, which is easier to do if you can see it properly.
Thank God that you're not a woman After reading some of your posts I have come to the conclusion that 1) you're a boy and 2) you have a lot of learning to do to truly understand what it's really like to be a man. Not a "real" man, but a just man.