The ultimate episode ranking thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by Captrek, Sep 25, 2011.

  1. Captrek

    Captrek Vice Admiral Admiral

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    We’ve rated episodes with threads like [THREAD=142236]Hurt/Heal[/THREAD] and [THREAD=148175]top[/THREAD] [THREAD=147974]episode[/THREAD] [THREAD=147383]lists[/THREAD].

    This is intended to be the ultimate TOS episode ratings thread. You rate all the episodes (or all the episodes you want to) and post your ratings in this thread. When we have enough participants, they’ll be analyzed with the Shulze method to produce a communal ranking.


    HOW TO PARTICIPATE

    Post your ballot in this thread. Each line of your ballot consists of a score followed by an episode title. Scores range from a low of 1 (the worst episodes) to whatever top score you choose. The only information taken from your ballot is relative preferences, so use whatever scale is most comfortable for you.

    If there is an episode that you have not seen or on which you do not have an opinion, you may either leave it out of your ballot or use a dash (-) for the score.

    Example #1:

    Alice has seen ten episodes of TOS. She chooses a 3-point scale where 3 is good, 2 is average, and 1 is poor. Her ballot looks like this:

    Code:
         3  Where No Man Has Gone Before
         2  The Corbomite Manuever
         1  Mudd’s Women
         2  The Enemy Within
         2  The Man Trap
         3  The Naked Time
         1  Charlie X
         3  Balance of Terror
         2  What Are Little Girls Made Of?
         2  Dagger of the Mind
         -  Miri
         -  The Conscience of the King
        
    Example #2:

    Bob has seen ten episodes. He chooses a top score of 100 and gives a complete ranking with this ballot:

    Code:
        100  Balance of Terror
         90  The Naked Time
         80  Where No Man Has Gone Before
         70  The Corbomite Manuever
         60  The Enemy Within
         50  What are Little Girls Made Of?
         40  The Man Trap
         30  Miri
         20  Charlie X
         10  Mudd’s Women
        
    Example #3:

    Charlie grades episodes:

    Code:
            78  The Naked Time
            81  Arena
            86  Journey to Babel
            52  And the Children Shall Lead
            82  The Tholian Web
            90  The Trouble With Tribbles
            74  I, Mudd
            
    Include the line “truncate” for a truncated ballot. Episodes not on the ballot are scored below episodes on the ballot.

    Example #4:

    David has seen the whole series but just knows his favorites:

    Code:
             50  The City on the Edge of Forever
             40  Mirror, Mirror
             30  The Trouble With Tribbles
             20  Amok Time
             10  Balance of Terror
            truncate
            
    Simple as that!

    You may replace your ballot at any time if you change your mind, want to rate episodes that you had not previously rated, or want to change your ballot for any reason. To do so, simply post your new ballot. Please don’t go back and edit old ballots, because the edits may go unnoticed and the changes uncounted.
     
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  2. Captrek

    Captrek Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Here is a blank ballot for your convenience:
    Code:
     -  Where No Man Has Gone Before
     -  The Corbomite Maneuver
     -  Mudd's Women
     -  The Enemy Within
     -  The Man Trap
     -  The Naked Time
     -  Charlie X
     -  Balance of Terror
     -  What Are Little Girls Made Of?
     -  Dagger of the Mind
     -  Miri
     -  The Conscience of the King
     -  The Galileo Seven
     -  Court Martial
     -  The Menagerie, Part I
     -  The Menagerie, Part II
     -  Shore Leave
     -  The Squire of Gothos
     -  Arena
     -  The Alternative Factor
     -  Tomorrow is Yesterday
     -  The Return of the Archons
     -  A Taste of Armageddon
     -  Space Seed
     -  This Side of Paradise
     -  The Devil in the Dark
     -  Errand of Mercy
     -  The City on the Edge of Forever
     -  Operation -- Annihilate!
     -  Catspaw
     -  Metamorphosis
     -  Friday's Child
     -  Who Mourns for Adonais?
     -  Amok Time
     -  The Doomsday Machine
     -  Wolf in the Fold
     -  The Changeling
     -  The Apple
     -  Mirror, Mirror
     -  The Deadly Years
     -  I, Mudd
     -  The Trouble with Tribbles
     -  Bread and Circuses
     -  Journey to Babel
     -  A Private Little War
     -  The Gamesters of Triskelion
     -  Obsession
     -  The Immunity Syndrome
     -  A Piece of the Action
     -  By Any Other Name
     -  Return to Tomorrow
     -  Patterns of Force
     -  The Ultimate Computer
     -  The Omega Glory
     -  Assignment: Earth
     -  Spectre of the Gun
     -  Elaan of Troyius
     -  The Paradise Syndrome
     -  The Enterprise Incident
     -  And the Children Shall Lead
     -  Spock's Brain
     -  Is There in Truth No Beauty?
     -  The Empath
     -  The Tholian Web
     -  For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky
     -  Day of the Dove
     -  Plato's Stepchildren
     -  Wink of an Eye
     -  That Which Survives
     -  Let That Be Your Last Battlefield
     -  Whom Gods Destroy
     -  The Mark of Gideon
     -  The Lights of Zetar
     -  The Cloud Minders
     -  The Way to Eden
     -  Requiem for Methuselah
     -  The Savage Curtain
     -  All Our Yesterdays
     -  Turnabout Intruder
     
  3. Captrek

    Captrek Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Here’s my ballot:
    Code:
     5  Where No Man Has Gone Before
     4  The Corbomite Maneuver
     3  Mudd's Women
     4  The Enemy Within
     3  The Man Trap
     4  The Naked Time
     3  Charlie X
     6  Balance of Terror
     3  What Are Little Girls Made Of?
     3  Dagger of the Mind
     1  Miri
     4  The Conscience of the King
     6  The Galileo Seven
     4  Court Martial
     5  The Menagerie, Part I
     5  The Menagerie, Part II
     5  Shore Leave
     4  The Squire of Gothos
     5  Arena
     1  The Alternative Factor
     4  Tomorrow is Yesterday
     3  The Return of the Archons
     3  A Taste of Armageddon
     5  Space Seed
     4  This Side of Paradise
     4  The Devil in the Dark
     5  Errand of Mercy
     6  The City on the Edge of Forever
     4  Operation -- Annihilate!
     3  Catspaw
     3  Metamorphosis
     2  Friday's Child
     3  Who Mourns for Adonais?
     6  Amok Time
     6  The Doomsday Machine
     1  Wolf in the Fold
     3  The Changeling
     2  The Apple
     5  Mirror, Mirror
     3  The Deadly Years
     4  I, Mudd
     4  The Trouble with Tribbles
     2  Bread and Circuses
     6  Journey to Babel
     3  A Private Little War
     3  The Gamesters of Triskelion
     3  Obsession
     3  The Immunity Syndrome
     4  A Piece of the Action
     3  By Any Other Name
     2  Return to Tomorrow
     3  Patterns of Force
     4  The Ultimate Computer
     2  The Omega Glory
     4  Assignment: Earth
     3  Spectre of the Gun
     2  Elaan of Troyius
     4  The Paradise Syndrome
     4  The Enterprise Incident
     1  And the Children Shall Lead
     1  Spock's Brain
     2  Is There in Truth No Beauty?
     1  The Empath
     4  The Tholian Web
     3  For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky
     3  Day of the Dove
     1  Plato's Stepchildren
     1  Wink of an Eye
     1  That Which Survives
     3  Let That Be Your Last Battlefield
     3  Whom Gods Destroy
     1  The Mark of Gideon
     2  The Lights of Zetar
     3  The Cloud Minders
     2  The Way to Eden
     3  Requiem for Methuselah
     1  The Savage Curtain
     3  All Our Yesterdays
     1  Turnabout Intruder
     
  4. CorporalCaptain

    CorporalCaptain Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Golly, this is really snazzy! I will participate, but this ballot will take at least a few days, maybe even a week. k? :)

    I'm reading up on the Schulze method now. Looks fascinating.
     
  5. Captrek

    Captrek Vice Admiral Admiral

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    More than k. :bolian: Rating 79 episodes is naturally going to take more time than picking a top 10. Take all the time you need. There’s no deadline. I’ll update results on a regular basis as long as ballots keep coming in.
     
  6. jk82

    jk82 Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    Scale: 0-5

    Code:
     
    4  Where No Man Has Gone Before
    5  The Corbomite Maneuver
    3  Mudd's Women
    4  The Enemy Within
    3  The Man Trap
    4  The Naked Time
    3  Charlie X
    5  Balance of Terror
    4  What Are Little Girls Made Of?
    4  Dagger of the Mind
    3  Miri
    3  The Conscience of the King
    3  The Galileo Seven
    4  Court Martial
    3  The Menagerie, Part I
    3  The Menagerie, Part II
    5  Shore Leave
    3  The Squire of Gothos
    5  Arena
    1  The Alternative Factor
    3  Tomorrow is Yesterday
    3  The Return of the Archons
    4  A Taste of Armageddon
    4  Space Seed
    4  This Side of Paradise
    5  The Devil in the Dark
    4  Errand of Mercy
    5  The City on the Edge of Forever
    4  Operation -- Annihilate!
    2  Catspaw
    2  Metamorphosis
    2  Friday's Child
    3  Who Mourns for Adonais?
    3  Amok Time
    4  The Doomsday Machine
    2  Wolf in the Fold
    3  The Changeling
    2  The Apple
    4  Mirror, Mirror
    3  The Deadly Years
    2  I, Mudd
    5  The Trouble with Tribbles
    3  Bread and Circuses
    5  Journey to Babel
    3  A Private Little War
    3  The Gamesters of Triskelion
    3  Obsession
    3  The Immunity Syndrome
    3  A Piece of the Action
    2  By Any Other Name
    3 Return to Tomorrow
    3  Patterns of Force
    3  The Ultimate Computer
    2  The Omega Glory
    2  Assignment: Earth
    3  Spectre of the Gun
    1  Elaan of Troyius
    2  The Paradise Syndrome
    2 The Enterprise Incident
    1  And the Children Shall Lead
    0  Spock's Brain
    2  Is There in Truth No Beauty?
    2  The Empath
    2 The Tholian Web
    2  For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky
    2  Day of the Dove
    0  Plato's Stepchildren
    2 Wink of an Eye
    2 That Which Survives
    2  Let That Be Your Last Battlefield
    2 Whom Gods Destroy
    1  The Mark of Gideon
    1  The Lights of Zetar
    1 The Cloud Minders
    1  The Way to Eden
    2  Requiem for Methuselah
    1  The Savage Curtain
    1  All Our Yesterdays
    1  Turnabout Intruder
     
  7. Scrambo

    Scrambo Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    ooh this will give me something to do at work hee hee
     
  8. CorporalCaptain

    CorporalCaptain Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Question. Although it seemed to be implied that the answer to this is "yes", I just want to be sure. There can be gaps in my scale right? For example, my top score could be 1000. Right?

    Also, captrek, you should lobby to get this thread pinned.
     
  9. Captrek

    Captrek Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Good question. The answer is yes. I'll edit the examples above to demonstrate that.

    I was thinking about that. I decided it would be premature to ask before more people have shown an interest.
     
  10. Captrek

    Captrek Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I’m going to need a mod to add the example to the OP.

    Example #3:

    Charlie grades episodes:

    Code:
    78  The Naked Time
    81  Arena
    86  Journey to Babel
    52  And the Children Shall Lead
    82  The Tholian Web
    90  The Trouble With Tribbles
    74  I, Mudd
    
     
  11. Captrek

    Captrek Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Include the line “truncate” for a truncated ballot. Episodes not on the ballot are scored below episodes on the ballot.

    Example #4:

    David has seen the whole series but just knows his favorites:

    Code:
     5  The City on the Edge of Forever
     4  Mirror, Mirror
     3  The Trouble With Tribbles
     2  Amok Time
     1  Balance of Terror
    truncate
    
     
  12. Isis

    Isis Commodore Commodore

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    Looks interesting. Will definitely submit a ballot, probably this weekend.
     
  13. erastus25

    erastus25 Commodore Commodore

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    Still time to submit a ballot?
     
  14. Captrek

    Captrek Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Yes, there is still plenty of time.

    My original plan was to pin the thread and periodically update the results as votes continue to trickle in. Unfortunately, there hasn’t been enough interest to justify asking for the pin, so the election will end when the thread dies its natural death.

    With only two non-sample ballots in so far (my own and jk82’s), there’s little point to a tally. If and when we get a few more ballots, I’ll post a tally and update it as needed.

    For personal reasons, I probably won’t be around much for the next week or so.
     
  15. Captrek

    Captrek Vice Admiral Admiral

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    We’ve rated episodes with threads like [THREAD=142236]Hurt/Heal[/THREAD] and [THREAD=148175]top[/THREAD] [THREAD=147974]episode[/THREAD] [THREAD=147383]lists[/THREAD].

    This is intended to be the ultimate TOS episode ratings thread. You rate all the episodes (or all the episodes you want to) and post your ratings in this thread. When we have enough participants, they’ll be analyzed with the Shulze method to produce a communal ranking.


    HOW TO PARTICIPATE

    Post your ballot in this thread. Each line of your ballot consists of a score followed by an episode title. Scores range from a low of 1 (the worst episodes) to whatever top score you choose. The only information taken from your ballot is relative preferences, so use whatever scale is most comfortable for you.

    If there is an episode that you have not seen or on which you do not have an opinion, you may either leave it out of your ballot or use a dash (-) for the score.

    Example #1:

    Alice has seen ten episodes of TOS. She chooses a 3-point scale where 3 is good, 2 is average, and 1 is poor. Her ballot looks like this:

    Code:
    3  Where No Man Has Gone Before
    2  The Corbomite Manuever
    1  Mudd’s Women
    2  The Enemy Within
    2  The Man Trap
    3  The Naked Time
    1  Charlie X
    3  Balance of Terror
    2  What Are Little Girls Made Of?
    2  Dagger of the Mind
    -  Miri
    -  The Conscience of the King
    

    Example #2:

    Bob has seen ten episodes. He chooses a top score of 100 and gives a complete ranking with this ballot:

    Code:
    100  Balance of Terror
     90  The Naked Time
     80  Where No Man Has Gone Before
     70  The Corbomite Manuever
     60  The Enemy Within
     50  What are Little Girls Made Of?
     40  The Man Trap
     30  Miri
     20  Charlie X
     10  Mudd’s Women
    

    Example #3:

    Charlie grades episodes:

    Code:
    78  The Naked Time
    81  Arena
    86  Journey to Babel
    52  And the Children Shall Lead
    82  The Tholian Web
    90  The Trouble With Tribbles
    74  I, Mudd
    

    Include the line “truncate” for a truncated ballot. Episodes not on the ballot are scored below episodes on the ballot.

    Example #4:

    David has seen the whole series but just knows his favorites:

    Code:
    50  The City on the Edge of Forever
    40  Mirror, Mirror
    30  The Trouble With Tribbles
    20  Amok Time
    10  Balance of Terror
    truncate
    

    Simple as that!

    You may replace your ballot at any time if you change your mind, want to rate episodes that you had not previously rated, or want to change your ballot for any reason. To do so, simply post a new ballot. Please don’t go back and edit old ballots, because the edits may go unnoticed and the changes uncounted.
     
  16. Isis

    Isis Commodore Commodore

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    Sorry I let the time get away from me, Captrek, but here's my list:

    Code:
    8.5 Where No Man Has Gone Before
    9 The Corbomite Maneuver
    7.5 Mudd's Women
    8.5 The Enemy Within
    9 The Man Trap
    8 The Naked Time
    7.5 Charlie X
    10 Balance of Terror
    9 What Are Little Girls Made Of?
    9 Dagger of the Mind
    7 Miri
    8.5 The Conscience of the King
    8.5 The Galileo Seven
    8.5 Court Martial
    10 The Menagerie, Part I
    9 The Menagerie, Part II
    5 Shore Leave
    7.5 The Squire of Gothos
    8.5 Arena
    5.5 The Alternative Factor
    8.5 Tomorrow is Yesterday
    7.5 The Return of the Archons
    8.5 A Taste of Armageddon
    7.5 Space Seed
    8.5 This Side of Paradise
    8.5 The Devil in the Dark
    9 Errand of Mercy
    10 The City on the Edge of Forever
    7 Operation -- Annihilate!
    5.5 Catspaw
    7 Metamorphosis
    7 Friday's Child
    7 Who Mourns for Adonais?
    10 Amok Time
    10 The Doomsday Machine
    8.5 Wolf in the Fold
    8.5 The Changeling
    7 The Apple
    10 Mirror, Mirror
    7 The Deadly Years
    7 I, Mudd
    9.5 The Trouble with Tribbles
    7 Bread and Circuses
    8.5 Journey to Babel
    7 A Private Little War
    7.5 The Gamesters of Triskelion
    7 Obsession
    7 The Immunity Syndrome
    8 A Piece of the Action
    7 By Any Other Name
    7 Return to Tomorrow
    6 Patterns of Force
    7 The Ultimate Computer
    7 The Omega Glory
    8.5 Assignment: Earth
    7.5 Spectre of the Gun
    8.5 Elaan of Troyius
    5.5 The Paradise Syndrome
    8 The Enterprise Incident
    4.5 And the Children Shall Lead
    7.5 Spock's Brain
    5.5 Is There in Truth No Beauty?
    8 The Empath
    8.5 The Tholian Web
    5 For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky
    8.5 Day of the Dove
    5 Plato's Stepchildren
    7.5 Wink of an Eye
    7.5 That Which Survives
    7.5 Let That Be Your Last Battlefield
    5 Whom Gods Destroy
    5 The Mark of Gideon
    5 The Lights of Zetar
    5 The Cloud Minders
    5.5 The Way to Eden
    6.5 Requiem for Methuselah
    7.5 The Savage Curtain
    8 All Our Yesterdays
    5.5 Turnabout Intruder
    
     
  17. Captrek

    Captrek Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Better late than never, Isis. Thanks for participating! :)

    Hopefully ballots will continue to come in.
     
  18. Isis

    Isis Commodore Commodore

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    You're welcome, captrek. Once I finally got to it, rating all the eps went pretty fast, taking maybe about 10 minutes. :)
     
  19. CorporalCaptain

    CorporalCaptain Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Hey, captrek, here's my list.

    Code:
    100 The Doomsday Machine
    100 The City on the Edge of Forever
    100 Journey to Babel
    100 Mirror, Mirror
    98  The Ultimate Computer
    96  The Devil in the Dark
    95  Court Martial
    95  The Conscience of the King
    94  Arena
    83  Is There in Truth No Beauty?
    83  Elaan of Troyius
    80  By Any Other Name
    85  Obsession
    80  A Private Little War
    85  Metamorphosis
    85  Errand of Mercy
    85  A Taste of Armageddon
    88  The Menagerie, Part I
    88  The Menagerie, Part II
    96  The Naked Time
    92  Charlie X
    100 Balance of Terror
    98  Amok Time
    100 Where No Man Has Gone Before
    95  The Corbomite Maneuver
    70  Day of the Dove
    75  The Enemy Within
    66  The Man Trap
    80  Dagger of the Mind
    80  Shore Leave
    80  The Squire of Gothos
    75  Space Seed
    70  This Side of Paradise
    66  Friday's Child
    60  Who Mourns for Adonais?
    75  The Changeling
    75  The Trouble with Tribbles
    66  The Immunity Syndrome
    60  Assignment: Earth
    75  The Tholian Web
    70  Wink of an Eye
    55  That Which Survives
    50  The Way to Eden
    69  Requiem for Methuselah
    55  All Our Yesterdays
    54  Mudd's Women
    20  What Are Little Girls Made Of?
    18  The Galileo Seven
    35  Tomorrow is Yesterday
    28  Operation -- Annihilate!
    15  The Deadly Years
    30  The Paradise Syndrome
    30  The Enterprise Incident
    18  For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky
    20  Let That Be Your Last Battlefield
     2  Miri
     2  The Alternative Factor
     2  The Return of the Archons
     2  Catspaw
     2  Wolf in the Fold
     2  The Apple
     3  I, Mudd
     1  Bread and Circuses
     5  The Gamesters of Triskelion
     3  A Piece of the Action
     2  Return to Tomorrow
     2  Patterns of Force
     1  The Omega Glory
     4  Spectre of the Gun
     1  And the Children Shall Lead
     6  Spock's Brain
     2  The Empath
     1  Plato's Stepchildren
     2  Whom Gods Destroy
     1  The Mark of Gideon
     1  The Lights of Zetar
     2  The Cloud Minders
     2  The Savage Curtain
     2  Turnabout Intruder
    
     
  20. Captrek

    Captrek Vice Admiral Admiral

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    It feels silly to post results of the vote after only four ballots, but since ballots aren’t coming in, I’m going to anyway. If more ballots come in, I’ll update the results.

    Due to the large number of candidates (79) and very small number of voters (4), it is first necessary to have a little sidebar about how ties affect the Schulze method.

    Imagine there are three candidates—Alice, Bob, and Charlie—and two voters ranking the candidates. One voter says:
    Alice > Bob > Charlie​
    and the other says:
    Charlie > Alice > Bob​
    The voters agree that Alice is better than Bob. However the Schulze method cannot determine, on the basis of these two voters, whether Charlie is better than Alice, worse than Bob, or somewhere in between. Hence Charlie has an ambiguous relationship with each of the other two candidates: it neither defeats, nor is defeated by, either of them.

    If there are no ambiguous relationships, the Schulze method produces a complete ordering of candidates. If there are ambiguous relationships, it produces a partial ordering, represented as a directed acyclic graph (or more precisely, Hasse diagram). If there are a lot of ambiguous relationships, the graph can look like a tangled mess of spaghetti.​

    As you might imagine, with 79 candidates and 4 voters, the result is rather tangled, although it’s getting less tangled with each additional ballot.


    Here are the results after one ballot:

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    After two ballots:

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    After three ballots:

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    After four ballots:

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    Y’know, I think that last one is actually kinda pretty.