Brothers and the Battle Bridge

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by DavidGutierrez, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. DavidGutierrez

    DavidGutierrez Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Why, when the crew evacuated the main bridge at the beginning of "Brothers," didn't they go to the battle bridge? Why did they go to engineering?
     
  2. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    They probably forgot the Battle bridge existed. :lol:
     
  3. DonIago

    DonIago Vice Admiral Admiral

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    "Hey, where does this turbolift go?"
    "Ba...tle...Bridge... Oh yeah! I forgot we had one of those!"
     
  4. Squiggy

    Squiggy FrozenToad Admiral

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    Because they were just there a couple of episodes ago.
     
  5. Genesis

    Genesis Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    I assumed they thought they would have the best chance of regaining control of the ship from engineering, since that's where most of the equipment is. *shrug*

    Though it does seem like they should've headed towards the battle bridge when Picard initiated the separation sequence. But I can see how, from a visual and production perspective, having the characters start for the battle bridge only to turn around and go back to engineering when Data stops the separation would've been kind of awkward.
     
  6. Mott the barber

    Mott the barber Commodore Commodore

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    Ah, the elusive battle bridge. :D
     
  7. T'Girl

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    Picard remembered that they were having the carpet done.






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  8. DonIago

    DonIago Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Maybe a new one was being installed on Tuesday?
     
  9. R. Star

    R. Star Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Probably because they didn't want to put together the battle bridge set again for one shot. :p
     
  10. Jerikka Dawn

    Jerikka Dawn Captain Captain

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    The funny part is that during the bridge evacuation, the Turbolift that Data was pretending to walk to was the Battle Bridge Express and Picard didn't seem to think anything odd about Data heading to the battle bridge when everyone was ordered to reassemble in engineering.
     
  11. Vanyel

    Vanyel The Imperious Leader Premium Member

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    The carpet in the Battle Bridge was just steamed cleaned and hadn't dried yet. Picard didn't want "Stanley's Interstellar Steam Cleaners" to redo the carpet.
     
  12. Timo

    Timo Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Also, why should Data evacuate in the first place? He is not reliant on life support, the impending failure of which was the reason for the evacuation!

    Considering that the ship was accelerating out of control, moving from one bridge to another would not have been particularly fruitful. Odds would not be good that the secondary bridge would have any more control over the warp engines. Brainstorming at engineering would be the way to save the ship; after that was done, the officers could return to one bridge or another.

    Once life support on main bridge started to fail, though, Picard might have suspected specific problems with that facility, in which case the battle bridge might indeed still have been functional and capable of controlling the warp engines. But engineering would still be the generic solution to all the woes.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  13. DonIago

    DonIago Vice Admiral Admiral

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    IIRC the ship wasn't considered to be accerlerating out of control (at least not in an emergency manner) at the time. The ship goes to warp (or accelerates and changes course or such), and just as Picard starts asking what's going on Data cuts off life support. In any event, the life support failure was the main reason for the evacuation.
     
  14. The Librarian

    The Librarian Commodore Commodore

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    It does seem a bit odd to immediately evacuate everyone just because the life support shut off. With a room that size there should be a couple hours' worth of air, especially if you move some of the random minions hanging around the back. If nothing else break out some air masks.
     
  15. Timo

    Timo Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    OTOH, malfunctioning ventilation might be a symptom of further malfunctions awaiting just around the corner. Or "life support" might include such things as artificial gravity, meaning that the next maneuver might turn everybody into strawberry jam.

    But basically it's not as if abandoning the bridge would be a great inconvenience, as we already know the ship can be efficiently run from other locations, and are basically told this again in this very scene.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  16. DonIago

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    Indeed. Depending on what "life support failure" actually meant, the bridge environment could have been in the process of becoming actively hazardous.
     
  17. Vanyel

    Vanyel The Imperious Leader Premium Member

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    Wouldn't life support also include heating?
     
  18. Squiggy

    Squiggy FrozenToad Admiral

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    Things don't get instantly cold in space, quite the opposite.
     
  19. Vanyel

    Vanyel The Imperious Leader Premium Member

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    Not instantly, but it would still be prudent to leave the bridge and not wait until it's cold. By cold I mean below 65-60F.

    At what temperature is the ship set?

    I think it was mentioned before that no one would see a problem with Data remaining on the Bridge. Once life support was restored he could regain control of the ship from the bridge until the rest of the Bridge crew can take their place. It might even be a standing order from Picard for Data to stay and try to fix things up there or until called.
     
  20. Timo

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    ...Although from "The Last Outpost", we know that the Enterprise-D is built so that loss of most power indeed results in cooling, not overheating. And that the cooling results in uncomfortable temperatures in the outer parts of the ship within hours. Still not reason enough for a mad scramble out of the bridge, though.

    Timo Saloniemi