HALO jumping in the movie?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Dusty Ayres, Aug 19, 2009.

  1. Dusty Ayres

    Dusty Ayres Commodore

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    What I mean is, does anybody believe that what Kirk, Sulu, and Olsen did in the film was a HALO jump? Or am I reading into this too much?

    (FYI, HALO means High Altitude-Low Opening-here's an article on the maneuver: HALO jump)
     
  2. MvRojo

    MvRojo Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Well, it looks like a HALO jump is still done within the atmosphere (obviously, I suppose since it's not like we go out of the atmosphere all that frequently), but the jump in the movie began outside Vulcan's atmosphere.
     
  3. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    Trying it with a tweak to the link.

    Okay, that works, and it does seem to describe the jump executed by Kirk, Sulu and Olsen (with Olsen waiting a little too long to deploy his 'chute.)
     
  4. CaptainStoner

    CaptainStoner Knuckle-dragging TNZ Denizen Admiral

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    Ahh, Olsen. The first redshirt, not to be the last...
     
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    no oleson wasn't doing a halo jump..he was doing a stupid jump.
     
  6. npsf3000

    npsf3000 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Looking at the link provided the more correct term would be HAHO jump.

    How about NSHO, Near Space High Opening (20-100 Km)
     
  7. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    Since they were opening chutes at a very short distance above the target (even though the target itself was at altitude) I think LO is still applicable. I also like the NS (Near Space) designation, but I don't think it's quite accurate, as the shuttle was en route from one ship (Enterprise) in orbit to another ship (Narada) in orbit at the time the jump was made.

    LOLO (Low Orbit, Low Opening), then? VHALO?
     
  8. pookha

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    VHALO, VHALO
    nero's coming and i want to jump home..
     
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    ...and making all Brits look bad. Twat. :rolleyes:
     
  10. Yeoman Randi

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    I am ashamed to say i didnt even realize he was a "Red Shirt" until someone on the Trekbbs pointed it out. I am ashamed!

    Was this the first time we ever saw such a jump in Star Trek? I don't remember it being done before, but in all honesty, i dont remember a whole lot of DS9 and had given up on Enterprise during the second season.

    M'Sharak, holy crap! I just checked the link and see that a HALO jump is REAL!!
    WHOA!
     
  11. Captain MAJ

    Captain MAJ Commander Red Shirt

    The deleted opening scene of Generations was to feature a jump like this with Kirk, Scotty, and Chekov. Also, on an ep of Voyager (don't remember which), Torres performed such a jump on the holodeck, with the safetys turned off no less.:eek:
     
  12. Haggis and tatties

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    I knew i had seen kirk doing that type of jump before in a movie but for the life of me i could not pinpoint which one, no wonder, it was a deleted scene..:eek:....Thanks, that's one less annoying unknown movie scene or music tune floating about in my head trying to figure out what they are.:lol:
     
  13. barnaclelapse

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    I didn't even know what a HALO jump was until I read this thread.

    See? You learn something new every day.

    As for Olsen, well, I have a feeling Olsen would have died trying to make popcorn somewhere down the line.
     
  14. cooleddie74

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    To be fair, he was the technical redshirt in that scene. I guess it didn't help he came off sounding like the M.P. for Epic Fail North.:lol:
     
  15. Nick Ryder

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    Kinda funny that we can count him as Kirk's first Redshirt death. Shall we start the running tally now?
     
  16. cooleddie74

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  17. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    Yep. The whole idea behind HALO/HAHO is to be able to drop people/equipment/supplies where they're needed without flying low enough that the bad guys can hit the planes with surface-to-air missiles. First used in combat during the late 1960s, iinm. HALO in particular is designed to get people in without attracting a lot of attention, though what we saw in the movie had the added wrinkle of doing so while the bad guys were presumably watching the approaching shuttle.
     
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    Yeah, I've watched documentaries on soldiers training for HALO jumps, it's awesome stuff.
     
  19. Dusty Ayres

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    I like both of those.:)
     
  20. npsf3000

    npsf3000 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I like your thinking.

    I guess it depends on the high he was dropped, and weather or not High/Low opening refers to altitude or target.

    We'll have to wait awhile before the military starts designating this stuff though :(

    Edit: Low earth orbit(LEO or LVO as it would be) seems to be a very good ballpark range - LEO