Dawn

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Enterprise' started by jazzstick, Aug 28, 2013.

  1. jazzstick

    jazzstick Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    May 10, 2009
    Location:
    The Darkside of The Moon
    Hey!

    As some of you may know, I'm not a fan of Enterprise but I am re-watching them now and I just got done with "Dawn".

    Now this was actually a good episode but what bugged me about it was the fact that it was pretty much the movie "Enemy Mind" minus the whole baby angle. I also noticed how close the alien in the episode looked like the Drak from the movie...

    Anybody else notice this?


    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]
     
  2. Enterprise is Great

    Enterprise is Great Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2004
    Location:
    The Island
    Yeah, that was discussed quite a bit when the episode first aired IIRC. They were really running out of ideas at this point of season 2.
     
  3. Melakon

    Melakon Admiral In Memoriam

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2012
    Location:
    Melakon's grave
  4. jazzstick

    jazzstick Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    May 10, 2009
    Location:
    The Darkside of The Moon

    Running out of ideas in season two...damn!
     
  5. jazzstick

    jazzstick Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    May 10, 2009
    Location:
    The Darkside of The Moon

    Yeah I agree there are many well done aspects to this episode but it would seem that pulling it off was far easier when it's copied from a movie!!!

    I vaugly remember this episode when it aired but watching it again made me cringe!
     
  6. JariM

    JariM Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2009
    Location:
    Helsinki, Finland
  7. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2008
    Location:
    A type 13 planet in it's final stage
    What bugged me was, once Enterprise located Trip and the alien on the surface, NOBODY thought to beam down a tent and air conditioner.
     
  8. Melakon

    Melakon Admiral In Memoriam

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2012
    Location:
    Melakon's grave
    Or even water, which Bernd Schneider pointed out on his site. "Hey guys, while you're figuring out how to rescue us, how about sending down a tent and a canteen?"
     
  9. R. Star

    R. Star Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2012
    Location:
    Shangri-La
    This is hardly the only time Trek has done something incredibly similar to another setting. When the modus operandi for scifi series is to make all aliens humans with funny faces, it happens.

    Take these two for example...

    [​IMG][​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  10. Mutai Sho-Rin

    Mutai Sho-Rin Crusty Old Bastard Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2001
    Location:
    Orange, CA USA
    Enemy Mine originated as a short story by Barry Longyear in the Sept, 1979 issue of Isaac Asimov magazine. It is one of my absolute favorite works of any length. It was later expanded into a novel that more paralleled the movie than the original short. If you ever read it, the phrase "Grow four, five?" will register.

    I liked Dawn precisely because it did take another turn at the same old but worthy idea.
     
  11. DonIago

    DonIago Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2001
    Location:
    Burlington, VT, USA
    I seem to recall falling asleep fairly early in the episode. Which isn't necessarily the episode's fault, but still.
     
  12. vulcan redshirt

    vulcan redshirt Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2013
    Location:
    UK
    you're right - Sontarans
     
  13. teacake

    teacake Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2007
    Location:
    inside teacake
    Enemy Mine should bore the crap out of me having seen this served so many different ways but I think it is well done and oddly gripping.
     
  14. Yanks

    Yanks Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2011
    Location:
    NX01 Bridge
    This!!