Just saw "The Cage" on TOSR- Help me out here...the Keeper's voice...

Re: Just saw "The Cage" on TOSR- Help me out here...the Keeper's voice

I always preferred the altered "Menagerie" voice for the Keeper. It sounded more, well, alien. And the weird pitch made the voice sound androgynous, fitting the neuter appearance of the Talosians (who, as we know, were played by women).

Of course. That explains the Keeper's Cuban accent!

 

Re: Just saw "The Cage" on TOSR- Help me out here...the Keeper's voice

Yep. And "Rate Changer" = "Tempophon" See the discussion previously in this thread as well as the photo in this link: http://icasea.blogspot.com/2009/10/springer-tempophone.html

Also, this link has a cool video showing how the "phonogene" -- the granddaddy term -- essentially operates: http://www.joostnieuwenburg.nl/heads.html

 

Eltro/ phonogene & digital pitch shifting

as alchemist mentions the Eltro Information Rate Changer harkens back to the phonogene which was created in 1953.

pitch shifting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_unit

Eventually a digital pitch shifter was created by Eventide, the Eventide H949 Harmonizer (pitch shifter) hit the market in 1980.
although to do this technically

These days you could probably simulate the
Mark II Eltro Information Rate Changer /Springer Tempophon/phonogene
using a DAW audio software simulating a vintage digital pitch shifter effect VST plugin costing $49.
Audio Damage :: Discord v2
"Discord 2 takes the vintage pitch-shifting style..."
On the product page link below are 3 somewhat limited Demo examples.
http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/product.php?pid=AD011

 

Re: Just saw "The Cage" on TOSR- Help me out here...the Keeper's voice

 

Re: Just saw "The Cage" on TOSR- Help me out here...the Keeper's voice

My main point is that they ran the soundtrack through some device to change the tonality without changing the playback speed. My speculation of what that device might actually be is irrelevant, the main point remains, and has been confirmed.

QED

 

Re: Just saw "The Cage" on TOSR- Help me out here...the Keeper's voice

Someone probably already brought it out, but Meg Wyllie(sp?), the lead Talosian showed up on Night Court...just Brent Spiner would do...and that guy who portrayed an courtroom officer extra (who I would see as an extra on TNG)...

I don't know the name of that guy, so maybe someone could help me out...

 

Re: Just saw "The Cage" on TOSR- Help me out here...the Keeper's voice

I remember her a couple times on the Golden Girls, too.

 

Re: Just saw "The Cage" on TOSR- Help me out here...the Keeper's voice

She also had a recurring part on "Mad About You". And reportedly was still driving the car she bought with the money from "The Cage".

 

Re: Just saw "The Cage" on TOSR- Help me out here...the Keeper's voice

Interesting....

 

Re: Just saw "The Cage" on TOSR- Help me out here...the Keeper's voice

And she was Lance Guest's grandma in "The Last Starfighter." Unless she was Catherine Mary Stewart's grandma. I don't remember which, offhand.

 

Re: Just saw "The Cage" on TOSR- Help me out here...the Keeper's voice

Oh, and a good example of Roy Jensen's natural speaking voice is in the John Wayne film "Big Jake." he plays the leader of the gang of thugs that tries to steal the strongbox from Jacob McCandles and his sons. John Wayne's Jacob kills him by shooting him from the shower stall with his 'greener' shotgun. His voice is quite a bit higher in pitch than Cloud William's.

 

Re: Just saw "The Cage" on TOSR- Help me out here...the Keeper's voice

She played Granny to Maggie, not Alex.

 

Re: Just saw "The Cage" on TOSR- Help me out here...the Keeper's voice

I did say I didn't remember.

 

Re: Just saw "The Cage" on TOSR- Help me out here...the Keeper's voice

She obviously bought a good 'un, then...

 

Re: Just saw "The Cage" on TOSR- Help me out here...the Keeper's voice

Awesome thread guys...loved the detective work...rationalizing from the general to the specific...and then finally the evidence!

The Cage site was awesome as well.

RAMA