How many reset buttons?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by BruntFCA, Dec 3, 2012.

  1. teacake

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    SEE an explanation was given. People always accuse VOY of not including enough explanations or reasons or excuses or throwaway lines that would clear things up.

    You can reroute everything on the ship into the warp drive except the holomatrix.
     
  2. MacLeod

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    One has to wonder why then, the Starfleet Engineers decided to design and build a power system that was incompatable with the rest of the ship for the holodeck. After all on the Galaxy Class ships it was comptable. They threw the fans a bone, because they knew they would critise the show for heavy use of the holodeck otherwise.

    But in general as has already been stated the biggest use of the reset button in VOY is the ship looking like it had just left Utopia virtually every episode no matter how much damage it had taken the previous episode. We can rationalise somewhat on TOS, TNG that the ship but into starbase for repairs as for DSN it was a starbase.
     
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    In Farscape, Moya would take minor to medium damage and almost always be okay by the next episode. It was only the major damage (like in the second season finale) that they needed a specialist to repair the ship.

    With Voyager, I don't think it was unbelievable that they could just fix the minor and moderate damage between episodes.
     
  4. T'Girl

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    They "reset' the Borg baby out of existence.



    Poker on TNG, I found it interesting. They did "movie night" on ENT.

    They did "movie night" once on VOY too, but they did it on the holodeck.

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  5. Gotham Central

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    The very notion that the holodeck was incompatible was dumb from the start. Unless the holodeck uses something other than electricity then it should be possible to convert its power into something useable to everything else.

    Lets be clear...these people had no problem integrating and powering alien systems from the other side of the galaxy and using technology from centuries in the future...but the the god damn holodeck was apparently a bridge to far!...Buls**t!
     
  6. F. King Daniel

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    Without the holodeck the crew might be driven to stuff like... pairing up:eek:
     
  7. lurok

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    :) I'd have loved a Picardo scene (HBO-style) where he talks about everyone coming in and pestering him about contraceptives and alien STDs.
     
  8. teacake

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    Like in Stargate Universe. Only you would actually care about it.
     
  9. Guy Gardener

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    I really liked what Kathleen Munroe did with her hands after she stopped being a paraplegic.

    Have you noticed that she's in everything these days?
     
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    I really do find something attractive about most people but Nicholas Rush was too much for me. Right up to the last episode I thought he was absolutely repulsive to look at. So the sight of Amanda Perry's hands on him was very disturbing.
     
  11. lurok

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    Robbie Carlyle has a very devoted fanbase.

    Just sayin'.

    Holy cow: just changed into a Commodore!

    [sings] 'Cause I'm easy...easy like...
     
  12. teacake

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    Hey I can't be in everybody's fanbase. I'm spread kind of thin as it is.
     
  13. teacake

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    That's funny because I just assumed you've always been here. And now I see that this is not the case :lol:
     
  14. Guy Gardener

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    But they weren't here hands.

    They were Ming-Na's.

    (YAA BODYSWITCHING MAGIC STONES!!!)

    I really wish that they would have followed up on that.

    It was completely of a violation, unless the women worked out a deal before hand.

    "Yes you can kiss him, but I not raising his baby in deep space, so keep my legs crossed... Now I'm going to draw some diagrams of things I like to do with my girlfriend, just point out anything that you think might be a health risk."
     
  15. lurok

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    It's weird seeing status change while online. Like losing your virginity while sober.
     
  16. teacake

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    Apparently they sign contracts saying anything's a go.
     
  17. exodus

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    Because they could.
    TNG nor DS9 could use the reset because it would have effected events in both shows. Voyager can use the reset as much as it wants because the events in which are reset doesn't effect any other timeline but their own.

    Seriously, folks get upset over Voyager using the reset, complain about lack of continuity and yet Troi has been mind raped, abducted, stripped naked to be sold into human trafficking and one week later she's back flirting with Riker and eating chocolate as if nothing happened.
    Anybody forget about Geordi's mom? Yeah, so did he.
    Worf's white human brother? Never heard of him before or after his introduction.

    DS9- How come the Letheian that read Dr. Bashir's mind knew ALL his secrets, personality traits and his fears...............except the biggest one, he was lying and hiding his genetic altering?

    Jadzia Dax used the transporter all the time, to spite us being told in TNG that Trills can't use Transporters.

    None of the shows were good with continuity.
    Some fans just pick and choose what they notice and what they don't or jump on the bash Voyager wagon cause it's cool.
     
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  18. teacake

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    BUT it's not as cool to bash since we got ENT.

    What happened to you VOY, you used to be cool.
     
  19. exodus

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    You really think coffee for one person is more important than an entertainment/stress relief source for the entire crew? We all come home from work, school or wherever and turn on the TV. Why, because it relieves stress. It's a way to escape the hardships of out day to day lives. Having a holodeck/Tv does more for the masses than a cup of coffee.

    As far as ship damage.
    What is the point of futuristic sci-fi technology like Replicators or Transporters if they're not going to make life easier? Why should it take weeks to repair a ship if a replicator can make it and a transporter can transport it in 5 mins? You're cutting down manual labor by half than 50%. They use a beams of light to weld things together. There is barely any effort in repairing or replacing things in Trek. It takes 2 or 3 hours to replace something as simple as a fuel pump in a modern car, yet we've seen B'Elanna, O'Brian & Geordi all be able to completely repair the entire warp core in about 5. In our time, that would take years.

    They implied that shit in a replicator can be turned into a pair of boots. a watch makes a plate of food. Beam up a tree from a planet and you've got spaghetti and meatballs for a month.:lol:

    Besides, the Enterprise has over a thousand people living on it, Voyage is about 150. How much harder and more resources would you need to feed everyone on the Enterprise and any guests, compared to Voyager who is only feeding the amount of people equal to backyard BBQ.

    Why have the most advance ship and all this futuristic tech if you still have to worry if you can afford to eat tomorrow?:shrug:
     
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  20. JirinPanthosa

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    The Enterprise could also dock, recharge, repair, and restock between episodes. It's okay if 20 crew members die in an attack and the ship has the same number of people in the next episode, because they stopped at a starbase and got new crew in the meantime.

    Voyager had a lot of good episodes and a good cast but it sure didn't commit to the premise of being stranded alone.

    In TNG Trills were also more like the gu'ald, completely taking over the host's personality. The hosts were also portrayed as willing slaves, cattle to be possessed by the symbiant, which Beverly oddly had no kind of problem with. They were also less ****able, not worth wasting Terry Farrell on, with those ugly foreheads.