genre TV on networks

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  1. Temis the Vorta

    Temis the Vorta Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Good article on the struggles of genre TV on networks.
    Pretty much what I figured: the genre TV audience isn't large, playing around the 5M range for first-run viewing, which is fine for cable's business model but untenable on network TV. So the analysis isn't exactly groundbreaking but it's a good list of upcoming genre shows in development. I hadn't heard about the "paranormal drama set in the Amazon" before. The absence of space opera even on cable is disappointing. Every so often, I see references to space opera series in development, but they never seem to get past the rumor stage.

    The article also lists period dramas in development at networks (which other than sf/f, is my chief interest). Too bad what passes for period drama is too recent for my tastes. Anything from 1950 onward shouldn't really count. But pre-1950 stuff would probably follow the pattern of genre shows: keep it on cable. That Romeo & Juliet series won't last long on ABC.
     
  2. RoJoHen

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    From my experience, it's not that the genre audience is too small. It's just that they don't watch these shows on TV. Most of us have been burned so many times that we have more of a "wait for the DVD" attitude towards our programming, because for all we know it's going to end up getting canceled without a proper ending.

    I love genre TV, but I sure as hell don't waste my time watching it when it airs.
     
  3. Jetfire

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    And it seems David E Kelley is taking his time with Wonder Woman...

    http://www.ksitetv.com/4664/david-e-kelley-is-taking-his-time-with-wonder-woman/

    I am not really interested in a Hulk series...would have to see the Raven series to judge it(Duh! :lol: ) and I am not sure if Blue Beetle is still in development...I was looking forward to Wonder Woman though. I will be watching The Cape. :)
     
  4. Temis the Vorta

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    That's an explanation why the audience is too small (which the article doesn't delve into). But regardless of the explanation, the audience is still small, since TV honchos chiefly look at first-run, live viewing (with DVRing having some impact, especially w/n three days so the ads don't get stale).

    Other explanations why the genre audience is small: the audience's tastes are hard to cater to, because they want originality, compared with the audiences for police procedurals and sitcoms, who just want the same thing, over and over again.

    The folks who created The Event probably sincerely thought that they were re-creating the magic of 24 and Lost. If they were working in a more canned genre, just taking elements from previously successful shows and mashing them together into a new show, might have been enough.

    It's also possible that genre audiences are more distracted by non-TV options such as social media, video games and extras on movie DVDs. I'm sure genre audiences are more likely to DVR and download shows, which reduces how
    To a TV honcho, this is a good reason to ditch serialized shows altogether and focus more on episodic shows, where abrupt cancellation doesn't matter.

    Of course this does me no good. I don't like episodic shows, and would prefer to take a risk with a serialized one, even if it might be abruptly cancelled. The alternative is no serialized shows at all.
     
  5. RoJoHen

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    Well, genre TV also has a tendency to be more arc-based and therefore require more of a time investment, where the police shows and sitcoms are usually more standalone. I can watch any random episode of Law and Order without ever having needed to see an episode before. It's much harder to keep an audience with arc-based shows if you don't grab them from the start.

    I think that's also why genre fans watch their TV shows on DVD, because it's a lot more fun to watch them a few episodes at a time. If I tried to have a Law and Order marathon, on the other hand, I think I'd go insane.
     
  6. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    That's The River, which is in development for ABC. Here's its description: "Drama about a famed adventurer/TV personality who goes missing and is presumed dead deep in the Amazon, whose friends and crew go to look for him on their state-of-the-art research vessel."
     
  7. Temis the Vorta

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    I dug down in the comments till I happened on this - I think this guy has the right idea.

    If that's true, that might bode well for The River. Simple concept: People search for their lost friend in spooky jungle. Assuming the people are likable, the obstacles they face are scary, and what we know of the lost friend sounds interesting, that'll hold my attention for several episodes, by which time whatever the real concept is, will start to kick in (most likely supernatural mysteries a la Lost).

    It'll probably be Lost in reverse, which will be unique: there are no other shows set in the jungle or where people search for their lost friend that I know of.
     
  8. Jetfire

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    Not that anyone cares...The Vampire Diaries is the highest rated show on The CW...I guess since people seem to think The CW doesn't exist...then that doesn't really matter. :lol:
     
  9. Temis the Vorta

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    Ah but the CW is parallel to cable in that an audience of 5M is respectable (I'm not sure they even get 5M come to think of it).
     
  10. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    3m to 3.5m is the usual range for The Vampire Diaries these days.
     
  11. Jetfire

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    ^ Yeah...you beat me too it. ;)

    TVD averaged 3.6M last season and will be less this season.
     
  12. Starbreaker

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    Most genre shows are crap. I'd rather watch CSI than 90% of the SF&F stuff.
     
  13. PlainSimpleJoel

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    Sounds interesting.

    Here in Australia, I've found that new genre programs are tried in a prime timeslot (generally 8.30pm), but many fail and end up either being screened after 10.30pm, or are shown on alternative digital networks. The later is more likely, as now all three commerical networks have a second channel for entertainment setup.
     
  14. Caliburn24

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    Human Target is not in any way a genre show.