Harry Potter - What would you like to see next?

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  1. BoxWhatBox

    BoxWhatBox Commander Red Shirt

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    Personally, I would like to see a prequel series about the wizards and witches who fought during World War II. Especially if Dumbledore was a member of a crack commando unit. Don't know why, but I just think it would be fun.

    What would you like to see?
     
  2. Silvercrest

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    I wouldn't. Rowling's interfacing of the Muggle and wizarding worlds is already pretty uneven. I don't think there's a good way to execute that kind of story.
     
  3. chardman

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    Ummm, there have been a whole bunch of stories over the years where high fantasy and/or the supernatural elements have been effectively integrated into the WWII setting, and there's no reason whatsoever that the trappings of Rowling world of wizardry couldn't work just as well within that framework than, let's say, the supernatural aspects that were the focus of the first and third Indiana Jones films.

    The notion of Dumbledore as a high ranking member of a secret branch of military intelligence, using magic to fight the Nazis sounds pretty darn entertaining to me.
     
  4. Kemaiku

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    During World War II Dumbledore was hanging around with Gindelwald plotting their overthrow of the Muggle society, until near the end of the war when Dumbledore rethought his life and turned on him.

    He was uninterested in the Muggle war and stayed pretty much out of their way, it was covered in the last book.
     
  5. Mr Light

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    It's that age old question... Why did Dumbledore let the Holocaust happen?

    I'd love to see a Dumbledore prequel book/series.
     
  6. Alidar Jarok

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    Actually, I don't think that's quite right. I understood him to have hung around Gindelwald before the war. Maybe it's silent and I just inferred it, but I took there to essentially be a gap where Dumbledore had to decide whether to confront his friend. He finally did and defeated him, but I don't think Dumbledore was actively plotting the overthrow of Muggle society. He may have been indifferent to it, though.
     
  7. FPAlpha

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    I have yet to read "expanded universe" novels of any kind that match the original series so i'm strongly opposed to any expansion of the Harry Potter series save for Encylopaedias or such giving a bit more insight into the world and making up cool events and such.

    But a full blown story can only disappoint and take away from the original. I have been badly burnt by the expanded Dune novels.. i love the originals by Herbert but the new novels are just pure crap compared to them.

    I'd wish Rowling had the common sense to leave them alone.. the story is finished and all it may need is to fill in a few blanks if she so wishes.
    I'd like for her to put this into her testament too.. forbidding anyone to write in the HP universe (can that be done legally?).
     
  8. Kemaiku

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    His defeat of Gindelwald was in 1945 so he was probably abroad pondering what to do in the years leading up to that.

    And I thought the jist of his friendship with him, beyond the gay relationship retcon Rowling put in after the book, was their mutual quest to find the Deathly Hallows and assume some sort of control, which Albus did buy into for the first while?
     
  9. Mr Light

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    Wasn't the implication that Grindlewald was working with the Nazis? He had a concentration camp in Europe in 1945, after all.

    That would explain why the Wizarding World didn't intervene in World War Two. They were too afraid of Grindlewald and the Elder Wand.
     
  10. Gaith

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    Harry Potter - What would you like to see next?

    Haven't we all suffered enough? :p


    Well, we all know how the Order of the Phoenix heroically put a stop to the Rwandan genocide... oh, wait, no, they didn't.

    Guess Dumbledore doesn't care about black people.
     
  11. Sephiroth

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    There could be an interesting story there. It seems that Grindlewald got may have gotten in over his head with the Nazis.
     
  12. Takeru

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    That wasn't a retcon, Dumbledore being gay is implied in the book, many readers picked it up before Rowling said a single word, that's the reason she was asked about it in the first place.
     
  13. Temis the Vorta

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    :D

    Maybe this isnt the Potter style, but I would enjoy an ongoing fantasy series with more of a multicultural scope. What are witches like in China, Africa, New Orleans, Salem?

    And tackling grownup issues like, if there are magic users in the world, why don't they stop evil, seems fine to me. The obvious answer is that not all magic users are good, but deciding that, say, Volidmort worked for Hitler, might be too disturbing for a kids' story, so it would have to be pitched more at grownups.

    The series I'm describing here probably already exists, doesnt it?
     
  14. Hound of UIster

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    A Watchmen-esque deconstruction would do a lot in breaking down the rather skewed idea of morality in Rowling's cardboard world.
     
  15. ROBE

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    Simple Wizards have a Prime Directive like policy of not getting involved with muggle affairs.
    If they did they would end up ruling us.
     
  16. Silvercrest

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    Okay, I acknowledge it sounds pretty entertaining. :techman:

    Sorry, I meant I don't think there's a good way to execute that kind of story in Rowling's world, specifically. Her world defies reason.

    I mean, we're talking about a body of people who are portrayed as so elitist, and simultaneously so clueless, that they have to set up a "Department of Muggle Artifacts" to figure out anything about us. And apparently without much success.

    And they are also portrayed as having agents integrated into Muggle society at all levels. Uh, how do you manage that feat if you don't know anything about Muggles?

    Now this might appeal to me.
     
  17. Alidar Jarok

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    I thought Dumbledore was in England, Grindelwald was in Germany. But, yeah, he had to kill an old friend so he delayed for many years.

    I always took their friendship to be about the fact that they were both at the top of their game, so to speak. And there's no reason to think Grindelwald was gay so people who derisively bring it up (not that there would be anything wrong with them being lovers) don't really have a leg to stand on.
     
  18. Kemaiku

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    Oh I have nothing against it, just that it was a fanon to canon thing, which is not always a good idea.

    A war setting could be interesting, but largely pre-Riddle unless we're shown all the background material cut from the films but making up a lot of Half Blood Prince, about his family and birth.

    Dumbledore coming to terms with seeing more of the Muggle world and rejecting more and more of Grindelwalds ideas, slowly turning against him, leading up to the dual would be good.
     
  19. Sindatur

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    No one's ever said Grindlewald was Gay*, that I am aware of. It's Dumbledore, who had the Gay crush, that left him more open to being led astray by Grindelwald's ideas (but, If I recall correctly, I believe Dumbledore's father didn't set a good example for Muggle loving)

    I would be interested in Dumbledore's youth and Grindlewald's Reign, or the Marauders In Depth story, but, yea, probably best to leave the story lay, and not ruin it by cramming in Prequels. JKR has said in the past, she has no intentions of writing more story in Harry Potter's world, the only thing she'd be interested in would be more Encylopedic stuff for Charity, such as Fantastic Beasts and so forth.

    Her new book (Seems to be a Stephen King type "Strange Things Happen in Small Town" story), is apparently revelling in it's adultness, with four letter words flowing like water and even a graphic description of teenagers watching porn

    *Though the actor playing Grindelwald has played Gay characters several times
     
  20. DarthTom

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    I'd like to see the muggles form an armed resistance against the wizards world-wide. Also, I'd like to see some of the other wizards in other countries - e.g. American wizards.