The DOOMSDAY MACHINE- Videos, stills, rare insights, fan made material

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  1. spockboy

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    I will start with this video I put together a few years ago. A side by side comparision of two wonderful artists and their own unique vision of the classic episode.

    https://vimeo.com/111014212

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    And of course, the Constellation uniform insignia...
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  2. Ssosmcin

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    Re: The DOOMSDAY MACHINE- Videos, stills, rare insights, fan made mate

    Wow, I like both of them more than what CBS went with (although I was 80% happy there, too). They both have great ideas and they also do things differently than I would have (had I the mad skills they do). A team-up would have been magical!
     
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    Yes, great work by both. For the most part, it seems like Scott Gammans used a "cleaner" 3rd season shot of the viewscreen. I suppose he chose looks over accuracy there, since the sensor ping sound effect didn't match the visuals.

    But that's just nitpicking, which is not done here. ;)
     
  4. Maurice

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    Both interesting takes on the material. Both mostly better than CBS's, but both with flaws. To my eye, Darren's sparking damage is overdone, and Scott's suffers from repeated breaks in directional continuity (ship angling screen right to left, then right to left, then left to right) and too much specularity on the ship. But, still, both cool.
     
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  5. uniderth

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    Dang! Daren Dochterman's was nearly perfect. That's as close to what the Remastering SHOULD have been. Same shots, same views just made have greater resolution and a bit more detail. I loved how he matched the shots of the original show. What I didn't like is that the Constellation was just another copy and paste of the Enterprise model instead of reproducing the AMT model used for the Constellation. Also the Doomsday machine while it was one of the best I've seen it still was too far off for my taste.
     
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  6. BillJ

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    I prefer Docherman's. Though I wonder why his Constellation bridge module looks intact? The Gammans' version looks overlit and the models looked far too white. Plus, I think that his space is over saturated with objects. Probably more realistic, but it just made the scenes look cluttered.
     
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    Re: The DOOMSDAY MACHINE- Videos, stills, rare insights, fan made mate

    This has been posted before, however it seems the right place to re-post. Documentary on the making of the episode:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAfEXDCsRmg

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  9. spockboy

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    Re: The DOOMSDAY MACHINE- Videos, stills, rare insights, fan made mate

    Great stuff guys! Keep them coming!
    I'm going to focus now on the many models (both real and computer) of the USS Constellation and the Doomsday Machine.

    First we have a 1/350 scale model VIDEO (bigger than the original) by Brad Hair.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxhpHvpoTUM
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    Next we have a VIDEO of the closest I have seen to the original model. This one was created by JM Chladek.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ualivoNNNo8
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    This version is by Billy Lehner.
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    Another shot of the original from Great Bird of the Galaxy
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    This great one (creator unknown)
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    This version by Barry Yonner
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    This CG version by Metlesits Fleetyards
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    And of course the CBS Digital version
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    Re: The DOOMSDAY MACHINE- Videos, stills, rare insights, fan made mate

    Docherman's > Gammans'.
     
  11. Metryq

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    Re: The DOOMSDAY MACHINE- Videos, stills, rare insights, fan made mate

    Subtle details I would like to see:

    1.) The Constellation was in the vicinity of the third planet when the planet was destroyed. Some nearby debris is good, but both artists used too many big chunks. A very faint "haze," like fog would have made a nice touch. Thus, the nearby star—shown in Gammans' renderings—could have thrown long shadows from the ships and debris.

    2.) When Kirk maneuvers the Constellation, the original VFX showed a (cringeworthy) stuttering movement, and the interiors showed Kirk and Scotty tumbling around under the G-forces. One might assume that the inertial damping field of the ship was off-line. A CGI exterior shot might show wreckage from the damaged sections of the hull breaking off and tumbling away as the ship groans into motion.
     
  12. CrazyMatt

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    Re: The DOOMSDAY MACHINE- Videos, stills, rare insights, fan made mate

    Da.

    Agreed... the planet killer wasn't such a sloppy eater and it didn't waste food!
     
  13. Doug Otte

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    Re: The DOOMSDAY MACHINE- Videos, stills, rare insights, fan made mate

    Both efforts are very well-done. Dochterman's is closer to the original shots; Gammans' uses more creative angles and backgrounds. I enjoyed them both.

    Any way you could correct the spelling of Dochterman's name in the video?
     
  14. spockboy

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    Re: The DOOMSDAY MACHINE- Videos, stills, rare insights, fan made mate

    and... DONE. Unfortunately I cant change my original post so here it is again with the corrected spelling. Thanks for pointing that out Doug :)

    https://vimeo.com/111014212
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    Re: The DOOMSDAY MACHINE- Videos, stills, rare insights, fan made mate

    Next we have a video by WileyCoyote1701 which has an interesting take on the Enterprise blasting the Planet Killer.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt-_ZxlTOnM
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    Next we have 2 diorama models from Mike Watson and Billy Lehner.
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    This one from Jarvis B.
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    This diorama from Gary Burke.
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    This offering from Anubis Productions.
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    Re: The DOOMSDAY MACHINE- Videos, stills, rare insights, fan made mate

    Now for come Doomsday CGI.
    These first 2 renderings are by thefirst fleet.
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    This one by fbombheart.
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    This interesting ABRAMS take by Dave Metlesits.
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    This additional ABRAMS take by unusualsuspex.
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    These 2 by arcasart.
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    Re: The DOOMSDAY MACHINE- Videos, stills, rare insights, fan made mate

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  19. spockboy

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    Re: The DOOMSDAY MACHINE- Videos, stills, rare insights, fan made mate

    :lol: Yes it is!
     
  20. Doug Otte

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    Re: The DOOMSDAY MACHINE- Videos, stills, rare insights, fan made mate

    No worries. I meant to thank you for the great video and this awesome thread! Wonderful images!