X-files Homicide and Law and order are all set in same universe.

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  1. TEH BABA

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    Just because there's one crossover, it doesn't mean that two series exist in the same reality. After all, there was a Star Trek TNG/X-Men crossover novel. It could simply be that several universes have their own version of John Munch, similar to how Texas Ranger Earl McGraw appears in four of Quentin Tarantino's films.
     
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    Now I have this image of Bobby and Alex tracking down the sewer monster.
     
  6. Goliath

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    I never saw that episode of X-Files. Why did it feature Munch? Was it set in Baltimore?

    The Wire may also be set in the same universe: the last episode of the last season featured a cameo by Belzer, though it wasn't clear if he ws playing Munch or not.
     
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    The episode is "Unusual Suspects". The episode is set in 1989, showing how the Lone Gunmen got together and how they met Mulder.

    The Gunmen meet at an electronics convention in Baltimore and end up in trouble with the police, represented by Detective Munch. Byers describes to him what had happened in the episode up until that point, which might explain why Munch believed in conspiracies in Homicide.

    The HBO series Oz might also be linked to St. Elsewhere (and thus Homicide and many other shows) since the contract to run the prison's hospital wing was won by a company called Wygert who also took over the hospital in St. Elsewhere. The fact that Tom Fontana worked on all three shows is no coincidence.
     
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    Yes. There was a rather lengthy list someone posted a few months ago that revealed everything from St. Elsewhere, Knight Rider, Doctor Who, Star Trek, Lost, and just about everything I have ever watched are connected by characters, implied relationships, fictional products, etc. I had no idea, say, Oceanic Airlines existed outside of Lost, but the name was used in at least three shows.
     
  9. nevermore

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    Then, of course, there is the Morley connection...
     
  10. Hermiod

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    More than just three.

    It's largely because of the use of stock footage from Executive Decision.

    Alias and Lost, however, are linked not only through the use of Oceanic Airlines but because Charlie's band Driveshaft were played at a party held in an episode of Alias.
     
  11. Mr. Laser Beam

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    X-Files is fictional within the Law & Order/Homicide universe, even if Munch is in both.

    This is because (in an early episode of Homicide) Munch says something about "On Friday nights, most people are home watching X-Files.
     
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    Likewise, it has been established that 'The Simpsons' is a fictional show within 'Futurama,' while at the same time we have seen that 'Futurama' is a fictional show within 'The Simpsons!'

    Sometimes this stuff doesn't have to make total sense.
     
  13. captcalhoun

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    that guy's wrong when he discusses nu-KR and TKR being linked, because they've explicitly said nu-KR only follows classic KR...
     
  14. Caretaker

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    I've seen this discussion before. The best way to answer it: We've seen how much power CGB Spender has - in order to discredit Scully and Mulder, and to make their lives more difficult, he had the people at Fox create and run a show called The X Files (similar to the military using Wormhole Extreme! as a cover for the Stargate program).
     
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    Well, the theory of the website is that if A and B and connected and and B and C are connected, then A and C are connected (I'm now having flashes of proofs in high school geometry coming back).
     
  16. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Just because shows might share characters doesn't mean they are connected, as such.

    We know Law & Order and Homicide share a universe, because they had regular crossovers.

    But the mere existence of a *character* from one show, on another show, does not necessarily link the two. For example, as I already pointed out, just because John Munch appears in seven or so different series, doesn't mean they all share the same universe. Indeed, X-Files is proof against that.

    And please, let's not bring up Tommy Westphall again, okay? Just because people from St. Elsewhere might appear in another show, it doesn't mean that other show is:
    a part of Tommy's dream. Tommy can dream about people who really exist! So even if the show, St. Elsewhere, was a dream of Tommy's, that doesn't mean that the events depicted therein did not really happen.
     
  17. Hermiod

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    ^I think that misses the point, though - it's fun to try to find links between all these shows. We're not compromising the show's creative vision or anything daft like that, we're just playing a game.
     
  18. God Magnus

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    Yes, but the site also acknowledges official declarations about any show. The showrunners of nu-KR have said that the show is a direct continuation of the original series and nothing else, so that alone is enough to make that article wrong. I actually wrote to them months ago about that, seems like they ignored my email.
     
  19. nx1701g

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    ^ Well if we're going for one off appearances Knight Rider and Star Trek are the same universe because in TKR there is a scene that mentions Doctor Jackson Roykirk working on a NASA Probe called NOMAD.
     
  20. captcalhoun

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    which is mentioned on the site...

    he also assumes that just because the Montecito from Las Vegas appears in a show, all other shows NBC used those sets on are set in the same universe.

    which is daft since buildings can be seen in fictional buildings in different universes and have different things happen there. like, for example, the White House...