Examples of magic in the Star Trek universe?..

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  1. junkdata

    junkdata Lieutenant Commander

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    Star wars has magic and star trek does not. Therefore Star trek is cool and proper Sci Fi and Star wars is childish and fantasy wank.

    But surely there are examples of magic in the Star trek universe.

    What would you say qualifies as magic in the Star Trek universe?
     
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  2. MacLeod

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    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Clarke's Third Law
     
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  3. F. King Daniel

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    Almost all the "science" in Trek is magic, starting with transporters. They just use technobabble to make it sound halfway plausible.
     
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  4. KaineMorrison

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    The Episode: The Magicks of Magus-Tu deals with "real" magic.
     
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  5. junkdata

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    I think the Q are magic and should have been left out of the series.

    And the dowd are borderline.
     
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  6. Melakon

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    It's magic how a woman can be lying down in Star Trek, yet the shape and size of her boobs remain constant.
     
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  7. wulfio

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    Yes, the ferengi cast a spell on the galaxy for people to ever take them seriously.

    But in seriousness, it depends what your definition of magical is. Gomtuu and all those other space fairing entities could be considered magical from a certain point of view based on their unique abilities. But if you mean like merlin, where someone speaks in latin and then poof, then I don`t think so.
     
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  8. BillJ

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    The only magic that I care about! :lol:
     
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  9. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    The power of the Q is easily more magical than the Force.
     
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  10. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    But is it really magic or just very advanced technology that the Federation doesn't understand?
     
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    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    I'm talking effect, not rationale. Q snaps his fingers and makes things appear, disappear, or change. Same as Bewitched or I Dream of Jeanie.

    And the advanced science rationale could just as easily cover the Force...don't make me bring up the midichlorians....
     
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  12. drt

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    Most of what the Q does could be explained by super advanced transporter/holodeck/replicator technology, which really isn't too disimilar from how Trelane/Korob & Silvia did their "magic".
     
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  13. BillJ

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    But so did Ardra in "Devil's Due".
     
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    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    And that was magic, in the real-world performance tradition...the art of illusion.
     
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  15. BillJ

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    I thought we were discussing magic more in the vein of Harry Potter... :p
     
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  16. KaineMorrison

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    Is it Magick or is it SuperPowers like an extremely powerful X-Man or even Beyonder from Marvel?
     
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    Q is the Rudy Coby of godlike beings.
     
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  18. KaineMorrison

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    I have no idea what that means.
     
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    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    "Superpowers" could just as easily be used to describe the Force.

    Q and the Genesis device have no more basis in science than the Force or Bruce Banner turning into the Hulk. It's all fantasy bullshit.
     
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    The Prophets and almost all the things associated with them.

    At first it was pretty interesting, but later it practically 'jumped the shark' with magical concepts.

    Stone tablets that release spirits when you do a certain chant. Ancient scrolls that blind you if you were not the one meant to read them.

    Divine being vs evil being having a magic energy showdown on the station with their magical energies.

    By the way, evil energy = red eyes and red energy. Good = blue eyes and blue energy.

    It's some type of advanced science and you better believe it . :lol:
     
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