VAN: Declassified Review Thread (Spoilers!)

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by Defcon, Jun 16, 2011.

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Rank Vanguard: Declassified

  1. Outstanding

    37.9%
  2. Above Average

    53.0%
  3. Average

    4.5%
  4. Below Average

    3.0%
  5. Poor

    1.5%
  1. JWolf

    JWolf Commodore Commodore

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    Re: Vanguard: Declassified Review Thread

    I thought the next Vanguard story was the last one.Am I wrong and there really is two more?
     
  2. Defcon

    Defcon Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Re: Vanguard: Declassified Review Thread

    There are two more: What Judgments Come by Dayton Ward & Kevin Dilmore in October and Storming Heaven by David Mack in April 2012.
     
  3. BrotherBenny

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    The bolded titles are not from Vanguard? Where are they from? A Google search will usually find them if they're not used in epigraphs within the book.
     
  4. GalaxyClass1701

    GalaxyClass1701 Captain Captain

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    Outstanding!!!

    The Pennington story and the one by David Mack inperticular!!!!

    I love Cervantis Quinn and I can't believe he killed off Bridy Mac so sad!

    Also I want more stories about Captain Diego Reyes and Gorkon!!
     
  5. David Mack

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    Re: Vanguard: Declassified Review Thread

    Those bolded titles were section titles from within Reap the Whirlwind and Precipice, respectively.

    The prologue title, "The Fire and the Song" is an allusion to "the fire and the rose are one", the final line from T.S. Eliot's poem "Little Gidding."

    Part 1 was "The Brink of Shadow". I just cooked that up.

    Part 2, "The Bright Face of Danger", you've already sourced.

    Part 3, "Instruments of Darkness" is from Macbeth.

    The epilogue, "Ministers of Vengeance", is my invention, and an inversion of the phrase "ministers of grace".

    In Precipice, it's more of the same:

    Part One, "Such Deliberate Disguises" - from T.S. Eliot's "The Hollow Men".

    Part Two, "Night's Black Agents," is from Shakespeare's Macbeth

    Part Three, "One Little Victory", is the title of the first song on the RUSH album Vapor Trails.

    Part Four, "The End of Ourselves," is one of my inventions.

    The title of my story in Declassified, "The Stars Look Down," is another song title from RUSH's Vapor Trails. It's a song about realizing that one actually has no control over one's own fate, and that the universe is indifferent to our joy and our suffering. The stars look down ... and don't care.

    I won't reveal them just yet, but be on the lookout for more Shakespeare-inspired section titles in next year's Vanguard finale, Storming Heaven.
     
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  6. BrotherBenny

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    Ah, I stand corrected.
     
  7. Darth Duck

    Darth Duck Commodore Commodore

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    Re: Vanguard: Declassified Review Thread

    But will there be RUSH-inspired section titles?
     
  8. David Mack

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    Nope. Not in Storming Heaven. All Shakespeare-inspired. :)
     
  9. Darth Duck

    Darth Duck Commodore Commodore

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    I don't know why but that makes me a little sad.
     
  10. elaithin

    elaithin Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Well, that's because Rush is the music of the universe. There should always be more of that.
     
  11. ATimson

    ATimson Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    J. Noah Kym is not Marco Palmieri.
     
  12. Cicero

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    Thanks. :)
     
  13. Marco Palmieri

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    Re: Vanguard: Declassified Review Thread

    Methinks she's pretty enough:
    http://otherworldeditorial.wordpress.com/2011/07/22/nerdity-alert-the-dauntless/

    :)

    The Ruins of Noble Men also draws its inspiration from Shakespeare, paraphrasing Mark Antony in Julius Caesar:

    Thou art the ruins of the noblest man
    That ever livèd in the tide of times.


    Best,
     
  14. nickyboy

    nickyboy Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Great Book, Marco's story and David Mack's story really stood out. Only 2 more instalments to go. But if you gotta go, go out on top
     
  15. JD

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    Re: Vanguard: Declassified Review Thread

    I just finished "Almost Tomorrow, and I loved it. It came ascross to me as a Vanguard origin story, and I thought with this in mind it did a great job of showing us the beginnings of some of the relationships, and situations we saw in the rest of the series. My only real complaint is that Tim Pennington and Ming Xiong, two of my favorite Vanguard characters, weren't in the story at all. My Rating: 9/10
     
  16. Ronald Held

    Ronald Held Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Finshed second story, did not stand out. Maybe, like others, I am not enamored with Tim. Starting on the third.
     
  17. Mage

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    Well, just finished Precipe, so I can finally start reading Declassified. Precipe left me wanting for so much more, so can't wait.
     
  18. BrotherBenny

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    It's Precipice.
     
  19. Mage

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    Was typing a bit to fast when I posted that. Thanks. ;)

    Anyway, finished the first story, started on the second one this morning. Liked the first one, nice to see how some things started. Not to sure about the second one yet. I like Pennington, but I'm not a huge fan of stories told from first person perspective, so will have to wait and see if the story itself can grab me. :)
     
  20. Zman1

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    Almost Tomorrow - great story i'd love to see more written like that one.

    Hard News - another well written story, i hope tim is there when the orions get whats coming to them.

    The Ruins of Noble Men - great story, i loved how the colonist problem got wrapped up.. but at the end i'm hopeing desai's transfer gets sidetracked.

    The Stars Look Down -
    喝畜生杂交的脏货... 笨天生的一堆肉!
    seriously he just got his life together and now... why? i really identified with quinn and to see the guy dealt a hand like that... go
    跟猴子比丟屎
    you
    流口水的婊子和猴子的笨兒子
    up till that point i loved the story was the best of the 4... after that point i'd say i liked ruins best.


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