Law & Order:SVU-Has It Gone Down The Crapper?

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  1. Knight Templar

    Knight Templar Commodore

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    I've always been a big fan of Law & Order in general and SVU in particular.

    But in my opinion, the last few seasons of the series have really gone down the toilet. Part of the reason I think is Chris Meloni's departure. I'm not certain but it seems that Mariska Hargitay's acting is not nearly as good without Meloni to play off of. The last couple of seasons she has come off shrill, overbearing, and more or less as a wannabe avenging angel.

    And the rest of the ensemble can't seem to carry the water so to speak.

    And the writers seem more interesting in piling up plots that are so indecipherable that if you glance away you can't follow anything.

    Anyone else watch this show and feel this way?
     
  2. PsychoPere

    PsychoPere Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    Meloni has only been gone for one season.

    I caught up on several past seasons through Netflix prior to the season 13 premiere. Season 13 has been the first season that actually kept my interest on a week-to-week basis during first-run; it's the strongest season the show has had in a long time, and I hope Warren Leight stays around for a while to come. The new cast additions of Danny Pino and Kelli Giddish have been perfect, and I haven't missed Meloni even a tiny bit.
     
  3. MacLeod

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    The quesion has to be asked how much longer does the L&O universe have in it, there must be what 40+ seasons worth of material set in the L&O shows.

    As for the cast/characters even the parent show L&O went through periods were it had a weaker cast.
     
  4. Knight Templar

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    The Meloni and Hargitay dynamic was always more important to SVU than any of the interpersonal relationships on other L & Os. I didn't realize until he was gone just how much Meloni elevated some truly bad writing from time to time.

    And the writing I do think has been getting worse.

    But Meloni brought a lot to the show with his "tortured family man" character. He was far and away the easiest and arguably most "normal" character one could identify with.
     
  5. Knight Templar

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    Well, Beltzer really could not take up the slack. About five years ago he specifically asked the SVU producers for LESS screen time. The workload I think was getting to him and he had some health issues or so TVGuide reported.
     
  6. Enterprise is Great

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    I think this season has been the best season it awhile. I thought that the show would stumble with Meloni being gone but it's been a surprise that it really hasn't. The only problem I've had is getting used to seeing Danny Pino playing a different cop character than the one I saw him play for years on Cold Case.
     
  7. wissaboo

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    I stopped watching a few seasons back. It seemed like each episode was just trying to out gross the one before.
     
  8. Knight Templar

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    I lost interest in Pino when his character thought his wife was having an affair (she was seeing a psychiatrist) and punched out one of her best male friends without provocation.
     
  9. Timby

    Timby o yea just like that Administrator

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    43, as a matter of fact: 20 seasons for Vanilla, 13 (so far; it just got picked up for a 14th) of SVU, 10 of Criminal Intent.

    The only truly execrable season of Vanilla was 17, simply because the pairing of Jesse L. Martin and Milena Govich was just beyond awful.

    In any event, I've been digging Season 13 of SVU. Outside of one or two really blatant misfires, the writing is the best it's been since probably Season 6. Shaking up the cast has given the show a real shot in the arm, not unlike how the cast shakeup on Vanilla for Season 18 really injected some new life into it. It took Giddish and the writers a little while to figure out what to do with her character, but once they got her settled in, the show really picked up.

    Are you kidding me? Stabler was a cartoon character. The character's entire throughline was "get mad, yell a lot, then punch walls / suspects / lockers / random nearby inanimate objects." Stabler himself was emblematic of just how completely goofy, ridiculous and over-the-top SVU has gotten over the past seven years or so.
     
  10. auntiehill

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    Shouldn't this be in TV/Media?
     
  11. Timby

    Timby o yea just like that Administrator

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    I suppose it should, but I'm too lazy to use my Mod Of All Trek BBS powers to do anything about it. When management is slacking off, you know it's hard to find good help these days. [​IMG]
     
  12. Timby

    Timby o yea just like that Administrator

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    I do my best to forget them, outside of the all too few post-shakeup episodes of LA.
     
  13. CorporalClegg

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    And L&O London. Can't forget that masterpiece.

    Plus you could include Homicide and CCF.
     
  14. Mr. Laser Beam

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    I think the current SVU season is just fine. I don't miss Stabler much. There are other characters I'd miss more if they left, such as Cragen.
     
  15. Sephiroth

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    stabler needed to go 8 or so seasons ago
     
  16. MacLeod

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    Isn't L&O: UK?

    So which would say are the best characters from the L&O universe?

    I might have to go with

    Law: Briscoe
    Order: McCoy
     
  17. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Mothership: Briscoe, Green, Lupo

    SVU: Munch, Cragen

    CI: Goren, Eames, sometimes Logan

    LA: Morales, TJ
     
  18. Knight Templar

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    Anyone heard that the character of John Munch has appeared on more TV series than any other?

    Homicide: Life on the Street.

    Law & Order:SVU
    Law & Order
    Law & Order: Trial By Jury
    The X-Files

    And several more police shows as well.
     
  19. sojourner

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    Munch is Tommy Westphall's number one guy.
     
  20. Danny99

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    The thing with Stabler and Benson is that they never and in Benson's case, continue to, remain stagnant as characters. I often commented how often perps would die in their custody, far more than I believe would be found acceptable to any current police force. Call it bad writing, call it a lack of acting talent, but that dragged the show down.

    It's sad that Belzer doesn't want more screen time, but I think the show could have survived with only one of Pino or Giddish coming in. I for one would have liked to see Meloni teamed up with Giddish.