STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Agent Richard07, Apr 18, 2013.

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Grade the movie...

  1. A+

    18.8%
  2. A

    20.6%
  3. A-

    13.2%
  4. B+

    11.1%
  5. B

    7.9%
  6. B-

    4.1%
  7. C+

    5.7%
  8. C

    5.0%
  9. C-

    3.5%
  10. D+

    1.5%
  11. D

    1.6%
  12. D-

    1.3%
  13. F

    5.7%
  1. Noname Given

    Noname Given Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    No it's usually:


    Person 4: I hated it because to me, it 'Not Trek'. (Usually followed by - Now <insert earlier Star Trek film that Person 4 loved here> was Star Trek at it's best...

    Person 1: But <insert earlier Star Trek film that Person 4 loved here> did exactly what you're nitpicking STID for; so why is <insert earlier Star Trek film that Person 4 loved here> Trek and STID 'Not Trek'?...
    ....

    And then the discussion continues...
     
  2. SeerSGB

    SeerSGB Admiral Admiral

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    It's New Coke versus Coke Classic is what it is. Tastes about the same, but you'll never get some people to admit to it. :lol:
     
  3. Hober Mallow

    Hober Mallow Commodore Commodore

    New Coke tasted nothing like Coke classic. New Coke tasted like Pepsi.
     
  4. Opus

    Opus Commodore Commodore

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    You know what I hate?

    Of course you don't, because I don't waste my time complaining days, weeks, months and years at a time about things I don't like, including specific incarnations of Trek!

    And I hated New Coke!
     
  5. suarezguy

    suarezguy Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    How is occasionally (hardly continuously) talking about what you disliked about something weeks or months (years is probably excessive) after you watched it more of a waste than praising aspects weeks, month or years afterwards?
     
  6. Saul

    Saul Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I found it to be a very entertaining movie. Predictable though. I think as a sequel the 2009 film which I was disappointed by they did a good job and they chucked in a lot of stuff I can Trekgeek out over. But that Vengeance ship looks crap and that's mostly because of it's humongous size.
     
  7. RAMA

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    What a silly statement. It was designed to to exactly what is states in the movie, to be overpowered and fight threats like Nero and Klingons. Its over-armored, brutish and less aesthetically pleasing than other UFP ships but it has it's own charm. It's a challenge coming up with something similar but different.
     
  8. AUbricklogic

    AUbricklogic Ensign Red Shirt

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    I still like them as entertainment pieces but when I watch the 2009 and STID movies, I feel exactly like Guinan did in "Yesterday's Enterprise" when everything went all dark and military.
     
  9. CorporalClegg

    CorporalClegg Admiral Admiral

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    You mean like this?

    [​IMG]
     
  10. mlk

    mlk Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I saw this movie today, I like to think I have an open mind and I really think it's a good movie, it's definately Star Trek.

    So why do I have this 'feeling' that I simply don't really care.. Why don't I care when Kirk 'dies' ?

    I think the simple answer is the fact that we don't really know these characters.. Sure they are 'kirk' and 'spock' but in reality they aren't the Spock and Kirk we grew up with, and the problem the reboot have is that it doesn't have a tv-show in its back where we have come to learn, to know and to care about these people. Without that tv-show it's simply not as dramatic as it could be.

    I gave the movie a A- but Star Trek's backbone is the TV-show I realize that now.
     
  11. SeerSGB

    SeerSGB Admiral Admiral

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    Into Darkness is Rotten Tomatoes #7 Summer Movie Of 2013

    Not bad, not bad at all. A little surprised, thought it;d be a little lower down
     
  12. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    I'm still surprised Into Darkness didn't do better at the box office. The only films that ranked higher on that list were independent, non-action films.
     
  13. Shazam!

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    I like how all the praise Saul gave the movie is ignored whereas a subjctive opinion on the look of a spaceship is merciless jumped on and torn to shreds.

    Kinda lends credence to this...

     
  14. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    Nope.

    It might, if Saul was in any way obligated to defend his opinion, or if one more drive-by dose of the Same Old Smug™ from RAMA was in any way equivalent to being "merciless jumped on and torn to shreds" by "those other people".

    But he's not, it's not, and you've got naught but more of the Same Old Drive-by Shazam™. You may sit down now, and thank you for your contribution. :)

    (And if, in the future, you have any actual problems to report, please do so by making use of the Notify Moderator button [ [​IMG] ] on the pertinent post. - M')
     
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  15. CorporalClegg

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    I'm pretty sure it all comes down to the marketing and the release schedule.

    Funny thing, I've noticed over the last few days that a couple of websites Amazon and Best Buy I think, have "Khan" right in the item description for the DVD/Bluray I wonder if Paramount has realized its mistake?
     
  16. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    ^They do name Khan on the back of the DVD box. No mention of "John Harrison"
     
  17. Shazam!

    Shazam! Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I highly doubt it ALL came down to marketing and release schedule.
     
  18. judgeroy

    judgeroy Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    LOL. I read a very interesting article in Forbes today that talked about "entitled" fans and how the scream and squall about their favorite series/franchise and take to the internet and raise a huge fuss over every detail and how that has negatively effected shows/films. IMHO, this is a big part of why STID didn't do as well as it could have in the US market. Look, fanbois took to every forum in 2009 to wail about how bad the direction JJ and Co were taking the franchise and they kept it up for 3 years, berating any and all news of STID and then when the movie came out, they stepped it up even more. I would bet that many, many people who were interested in watching the movie were put off by all this negativity from the "entitled" fans. In essence all their ranting negated good word of mouth, which is what pulled the 2009 movie up so much. Another good example of this was Man of Steel.
     
  19. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    Would that have been this article?
     
  20. Opus

    Opus Commodore Commodore

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    From the Forbes article:

    This is the most maddening part in regards to the new Trek universe arguments. The people who hate it can't stand the fact that it's not enough like Star Trek, too much like TOSl, not borrowing enough from the original, borrowing too much, not introducing new characters, not using old characters...

    And the merry-go-round goes round and round...