The luckiest guy in TOS

Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by E-DUB, Feb 23, 2013.

  1. Pauln6

    Pauln6 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Lol - if it's good enough to appear in Scary Movie, it's good enough to appear on these boards. I do think that the scene was very, very deliberate. They wanted to toy with the expectations of the time and they succeeded. If Grace Lee Whitney had still been playing Rand, what a fabulous and shocking end that would have given her character.
     
  2. Mr. Laser Beam

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    I remember him! He was a regular on alt.tv.star-trek.voyager way back when. That was a time. :) (I was 'Keeper of the Purple Twilight' on that group)
     
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  4. CorporalCaptain

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    Yeah, TV Tropes always has me in stitches!

    In the Star Trek section of that article, once again, they nail it:

    OMFG, yeah! :guffaw: This was so embarrassing when that episode aired.

    Poor Travis! :lol:

    And wouldn't you know it? The article discusses By Any Other Name, basically as if it rubs up against the trope.
     
  5. Duncan MacLeod

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    The scene was going for emotional impact. If you want emotional impact when the bad guy kills someone, have him kill a beautiful young woman or a cute child. Not some random smuck. That's why he lived and she died, color had nothing to do with it.
     
  6. sbk1234

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    My surprise at this scene had nothing to do with race, but that instead of the man, the cute girl with the shapely legs bit the dust.
     
  7. AtoZ

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    Outstanding!
     
  8. CorporalCaptain

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    Merely collecting historical data of television programs isn't "racist" or "sexist". There's no implication of approval in studying the way things were.

    Historians collect all kinds of data. Would you accuse people who study the progress of civil rights of being either racist or sexist? That's absurd.

    On the other hand, people who distort or suppress history would seem to have axes to grind.
     
  9. Metryq

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    The original poster was making an a priori statement, only later asking someone else to come up with stats to back it up. Yet I am being accused of distorting and suppressing history.
     
  10. CorporalCaptain

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    I read you as trying to tar anybody who would collect stats on ethnicity and sex in television as having an ax to grind. The purpose of my remarks was to refute that notion. Perhaps your beef is just with the OP?
     
  11. Robert Comsol

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    Though I hope I'm not being off-topic trying to get back on-topic, I'd say Lt. Garrovick in "Obsession"
    • He's a redshirt
    • Four other redshirt characters die (i.e. including Lt. Leslie's twin brother)
    • He survives several encounters with the vampire cloud (thanks to Spock's and Kirk's assistance)
    My other candidate would be Scotty in "The Changeling"
    • He get's killed
    • But he is resurrected :rolleyes:
    Bob
     
  12. Metryq

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    ^^ Excellent redshirt candidates for "luckiest guy in TOS!"
     
  13. E-DUB

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    Killed and brought back to life, no big deal. Just ask Spock, and McCoy.
     
  14. Metryq

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    But they did not bear the onus of wearing red shirts, a known "target on one's back" in the TOS universe.
     
  15. Robert Comsol

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    The question was about the luckiest guy in TOS (not Star Trek in general).
    Right now I neither do remember an established death of Spock or McCoy in TOS. :confused:

    Bob
     
  16. Sigokat

    Sigokat Commander Red Shirt

    Not sure about Spock but didn't McCoy "die" in Shore Leave?

    Nevermind...I see what you mean by "established"...its been a long day today and still at least 3 hours to go before I'm done LOL
     
  17. CorporalCaptain

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    Scotty died in The Changeling, but got better.
     
  18. E-DUB

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    I was counting Spock's death in TWOK as he is an original series character even though said demise did not occur during the series run.
     
  19. Metryq

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    "She turned you into a newt?" Hmm, sounds like a scene in "Charlie X."