Yeah, I've heard that before. Most people aren't turned on by animals, though. Most of us are turned on by other humans, on the other hand, so it's at least understandable how one man might find another man hot. How one man might find a fox sexy, on the other hand... that's one I'm not so clear on. Sure, they aren't hurting anyone, I just don't see why they have to make a public show of it. I don't care what you fap to. I don't come in here and post anything remotely pornographic. Since we're talking about persecution and stuff here, my wife and I are in an open relationship. A lot of people don't understand that. I don't go around telling people, "You must accept my relationship! I'm just as normal as you are!" I just don't care. I don't need to be validated by a bunch of strangers. Why do furries need that? I draw a line between what turns somebody on and what they want to draw attention to in public. Most people aren't furries and most people don't understand furry fandom--or even want any part of it. Deal. Other subcultures online seem to figure out how to congregate in one place and be happy talking to others who are like them. It seems to be furries in particular who like to go elsewhere and drag others into their silliness. I just don't get it. I don't go to Star Wars boards trying to convince people how great Star Trek is. Why do furries come to non-furry boards and try to convince everyone furries are just awesome? Who cares? DO NOT WANT.
lol see this brings up a good point, I dont really see much difference in dressing up, or being turned on by a furry character and being turned on by Klingons or Andorians or a 4 armed, tailed, pointy eared, alien male or female. btw, I cant wait for James Cameron's Avatar!
All I Know About Furry Stuff I Learned From Reading The Whiteboard. (great comic, btw. Furrys working in a machine shop, who play paint-ball on weekends.)
Some groups do that, I suppose. Especially when it comes to topics like sex and marriage. They think that any group that has 'alternative' viewpoints to such things, must then be more evolved, more sophisticated, and somehow 'better' attitudes than those of us normals. It's why terms like "vanilla" have arisen. Vanilla is the most boring, bland, flavorless kind of ice cream there is, so that's the kind of label - insult, really - that they put on us.
If you say so. And yet, how many of the discussions in the Trek-related forums here have to do with sex? Comparatively few. Let's go compare a furry board, shall we? I think it's entirely relevant, you just don't want to talk about it. And I don't have a problem with anyone's "taste." Just don't expect everyone else to go along with said taste. Well, you posted it, and then you spent two pages defending it, so clearly you had an ax to grind there. In other words, you don't want to tell me where these furry boards are that just talk about how awesome anthro stuff is without getting into yiffing and fursex. You're right, it doesn't harm anyone. I just don't like it. Why does that bother you? Yeah, but people are always questioning you about the furry avatars. It happens every time you use one. You must like the attention it gets you. Good for you, I guess. Such a softball, rehearsed answer. You can tell us you fap to furry porn, J. Really. Both bestiality and pedophilia are deviant sexual preferences. Both involve parties in sexual acts who cannot give consent. That you do not see the correlation is your problem. I think you are trying to portray furry fandom as something more wholesome and typical than it is.
I do indeed say so. As soon as you show where I said that Star Trek boards are comprised of mostly sexual threads and posts. I don't want to talk about you accusing me of being a martyr? No, I don't, because it's not true, and I want this thread to be civil. You have a problem with my taste, and I don't expect you to go along with it. If everyone were the same, life would be boring and devoid of variety, the things that make it fun and worthwhile. I have no axe to grind. No, just as I don't tell you where I live, I don't tell you other boards I frequent. It is a matter of privacy, and I ask that you respect that. Besides, you don't need me to go to other furry boards. It doesn't bother me. The only thing that actually does bother me is the idea that I'm into pedophilia or bestiality and I'm not. This bothers me because it can have social ramifications upon my life, since many people equate them. That is a personal assumption on your part. Everyone likes attention. The question is whether I do it solely for attention, and the answer to that is no. Why do you answer as if I volunteered that without provocation? You made a statement, I corrected you. It is a soft answer in response to a harsh question. There is no correlation between anthro art and bestiality or pedophilia. The whole purpose of anthro art is that there are human traits present, including human sentience. I am simply answering questions. You can, and do, take them however you wish. All I am saying, and have been saying, is that furry fandom isn't just sexual in nature. J.
Sentience is portrayed in many ways, just as in traditional animation. Speaking in a specifically human language, wearing clothes, having a job, watching television, things like that. J.
You tried to claim that the sexual component of Star Trek and Star Wars is of the same degree as the sexual component in furry fandom. I think you just admitted that furry fandom is inherently more sexual. Thanks! I've been totally civil. I don't have a problem with your taste, I have a problem with how you choose to express it here. We both do. I'm just honest about it. Then I guess you won't argue with the assertion that furry boards are predominantly focused on sexuality. I didn't claim you were into pedophilia. However, I did say that I think furries are a step or two away from bestiality, and I stand by that. You are sexualizing animals. No matter how you want to dress it up, that's what it is. Once again: if you say so. Just pointing out that you clearly do have an ulterior motive in promoting furry fandom. How come the people who are into only the non-sexual stuff don't make a big deal about it? If that helps you intellectualize the fact that you're fapping to drawings of animals, whatever works, I guess. At best, it's a pretty strange sexual fetish. At worst, it's betiality. Somewhere in the middle, you have people who are taking their role-playing to what I would consider an unhealthy extreme. Yes, fine, I will concede it's not 100% sexual. Maybe 90-98%. Happy?
I do not fursuit and do not find fursuiting abnormal. Do you find dressing up for Halloween or a party to be abnormal? Most fursuiters only dress up when getting together for a party or convention. I did not make that claim, no. I stated that sex sells and that you can find it in just about everything. I simply post avatars, wallpapers and pictures that I like. That puts me in with most of the board. I have no axe to grind. Your assertions are yours to make. I simply said the fandom does not, as a whole, consist solely of a sexual nature. Anything after that has been speculation and assertion on your part. You equated enjoying anthro art as being akin to pedophilia and bestiality "as far as you were concerned". Indeed I do. I have no ulterior motive aside from curiosity. I have no agenda. It is a soft answer to a harsh question. That is your opinion and your assertions. You can assume whatever you wish to assume. You are free to do so. All I am doing is asking questions because I am curious about other's thoughts, and answering questions in an effort to clear the air of any misconception. J.
I'd rather it not, though. People are free to ask questions, and I think I have answered to the best of my ability, the ones that have been presented. No. This is not adversarial. This is completely open, people can ask whatever questions they want. J.
Robau is marketing his own brand of Furry-based products... made mostly from the pulp of people who beat the issue to death in threads like this. And it goes without saying, said product is pure AWESOME. ...and lest you incur his BADASS WRATH Robau wishes to remind you to keep the discussion civil at all times for Robau approves of both Furry and Non-Furry people. Praise be to the Glorious Robau. Amen.