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Old July 15 2014, 08:31 AM   #297
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Re: Was NCC-1701 active for 40 years?

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I cited several of them, you chose to ignore them.

Any time there's been mention of Federation ships other than Starfleet ones.
The mere mention of a Federation ship says nothing about whether worlds can have their own ships that are not Federation ships. The concept of private ownership exists on other worlds besides Earth. There's no reason why all property in the Federation belongs to the Federation.

I don't agree that the only way to parse "Federation ship" is as meaning a ship somewhere in the Federation. A perfectly reasonable way to parse "Federation ship" is as meaning a ship belonging to the Federation.
Once again, that's splitting hairs because a ship that comes from the Federation or operates under the authority of a single Federation member world/agency is still a Federation ship. You can be more specific by saying that it's from Earth or Vulcan, but as long as those worlds are recognized as Federation members, so are their ships, especially in foreign (non-Federation) affairs.
That's if you parse "Federation ship" to mean that. The whole point here is that that need not be the way it was parsed in "Relics". What you are saying is only one assumption of what it might mean. Clearly, it's the one you favor, but that doesn't mean it's the only reasonable way to read it.
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