Robert Comsol wrote:
You mean Grissom didn't look old because ILM didn't "dirty" her or that she didn't look old because she had this iPod / Apple white coating (this would be some retroactive reasoning, because such white Apple products did not yet exist back in 1983)?
Um, you seem a little upset about this? I can't see why, but nonetheless my reasoning has nothing to do with any of the above. I say she doesn't look "old" because she shares more design cues with the Excelsior (and to a lesser extent, the Enterprise) than with any examples that we've seen from TOS or prior, while if we were to go with the linear-registry mode of thought her number argues that she be an older vessel. Hence, a heavy refit is perfectly plausible. YMMV, but that's my take on it, and I'm sticking with it.
Mark Nguyen wrote:
Agreed, "looking" old is completely subjective, since some people think NX-01 looks more advanced than NCC-1701; similarly I think the Excelsior looks more advanced than the Ambassador, but I'm perfectly happy thinking it's an older ship. Everyone's mileage varies.
Well to be fair we do know the Ent-C as seen on screen was the result of TV budget constraints and a necessarily rapid construction by the model team.
If Probert's original concept had been adhered to she'd have looked substantially more advanced (though for some reason I still prefer the uprated Ambassador types we saw, such as the Zhukov).
As for the NX-01, honestly the less said about that the better.