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Old December 30 2013, 02:29 PM   #41
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Re: What Happened to Nimoy's Voice?

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And no he was not so overawed by the 'great' Patrick Stewart in UNIFICATION that he was not Spock-like. I think any deficiencies you may see in his performance there are due to the TOS-hating producers/writers of TNG. Spock had to admit he was wrong and Picard and Data were great because it was well their show. Yes in UNIFICATION Spock was made out to be a fool, in RELICS so was Scotty, and in the first episode McCoy just admired the pants of Data. What do you expect from Berman?
Like all haters, you're twisting the facts. Berman did not write "Encounter at Farpoint." He wasn't even in charge yet when that was made; he was only the supervising producer, equal in rank to Bob Justman and below Gene Roddenberry. He didn't become the top man until season 2, in response to Justman's departure and Roddenberry's failing health.

You're also completely wrong about McCoy's scene in "Farpoint." Here's the dialogue from the scene:
MCCOY: Have you got some reason you want my atoms scattered all over space, boy?
DATA: No sir. But at your age, sir, I thought you shouldn't have to put up with the time and trouble of a shuttlecraft.
MCCOY: Hold it right there, boy.
DATA: Sir?
MCCOY: What about my age?
DATA: Sorry, sir. If that subject troubles you
MCCOY: Troubles me? What's so damned troubling about not having died? How old do you think I am?
DATA: One hundred thirty seven years, Admiral, according to Starfleet records.
MCCOY: Explain how you remember that so exactly.
DATA: I remember every fact I am exposed to, sir.
MCCOY: I don't see any points on your ears, boy, but you sound like a Vulcan.
DATA: No, sir. I'm an android.
MCCOY: Almost as bad.
DATA: I thought it was generally accepted, sir, that Vulcans are an advanced and most honourable race.
MCCOY: They are, they are. And damned annoying at times.
DATA: Yes, sir.
MCCOY: Well, this is a new ship, but she's got the right name. Now you remember that, you hear.
DATA: I will, sir.
MCCOY: You treat her like a lady, and she'll always bring you home.
http://www.chakoteya.net/NextGen/101.htm

"Almost as bad" is "admiring the pants off Data?"

And just in general, it's absurd to assume that writers "hate" characters just because they show them as flawed and fallible. Stories are about conflict and crisis. If you're going to tell a story about a returning character, you don't spend an hour cooing about how wonderful they are; that's what fans do at a convention, but it would make for a terrible work of drama. The only worthwhile reason to bring a character back is to tell a story about them, which means putting them in conflict with other characters or in crisis as a result of their situation. Or, yes, making a mistake and having to deal with its consequences. A character who's made a mistake is more interesting dramatically than a character who's perfect and adored by everyone. So it's not hate to make a character flawed and troubled -- just the opposite. That's what you do with characters you love, characters who are worth exploring and challenging. That's what you do when you want to give an admired actor a meaty role to play with, rather than just put them up on a pedestal.
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