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Old December 11 2013, 07:19 AM   #45
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Re: Sad/happy/bittersweet endings

JarodRussell wrote: View Post
That's why, for example, Flight is not an unhappy ending. It would be if we didn't get Washington's monologue at the end. Without the monologue, the whole journey of the character (and the audience) was pointless.
He was a borderline sociopathic dirtbag who endangered his passengers on a daily basis (regardless of what an amazing pilot he was), just possibly not in the one incident where he actually crashed. Him never being allowed to fly again and having to face the consequences of his actions is a happy ending for the hundreds of people he might have killed in the future.

Rķu rķu, chķu wrote: View Post
@Locutus: Do you also think that Total Recall (the Ah-nuld version) ended with Quaid being lobotomized and the whole thing is his Rekall fantasy?
Well, there is the "blue sky on Mars" comment at Rekall before he even gets put under, which is pretty solid evidence, and his Martian girlfriend appearing on the screen (though that's a little more ambiguous since the effects of the memory implant had just started to take hold).

Of course the reboot only treated that reality/dream ambiguity like a secondary consideration and not the entire friggin' point. It had good action and production values, but was ultimately pretty shallow compared to the Arnie version (there's something you don't hear often). Still enjoyable, though.
'First Contact' is the tale of a man who just wants to cash in on his creation so he can get wasted on an island full of naked women, but his fans keep insisting that he's a saintly visionary who has profoundly altered the world. AKA - 'I Don't Want to be a Statue: The Gene Roddenberry Story.'
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