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Old November 19 2013, 03:44 AM   #146
WarpCore
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Re: So what's with all the Archer hate?

jibrilmudo wrote: View Post
I never really understood it. But then I thought Dr. Pulaski was okay. Just okay though, not a fan.

Enterprise was my favorite series, it had a weak first season and took a while to find it's footing... but this was true of a lot of the treks including TNG (it's first season is much worse imo). If it was allowed to continue, I think it could have been a contender for the best trek.

ENT seemed like a very different (in a good way) ST show; it wasn't trying to simply emulate TNG in a different quadrant and the captain didn't have that ST ideology/dogma yet, and seemed to make sane, pragmatic decisions *cough* Voyager *cough*.

I also really like Archer's relationship with his dog. I'm not even a dog person He's about the most casual captain of the Treks while still keeping his distance from the crew.
Pulaski was virtually irrelevant to the show as a whole. My biggest problem with Archer is that the series revolved around the character too much but without the confidence or intelligence Kirk had. He was constantly portrayed as a highly flawed human being (even by today's standards) who doubled as a freaking super hero episode after episode. The writers could have done the show a favor by letting other characters do something occasionally. When they finally decided to do that, the show was already being canceled.

These would be lines either spoken by a character or to/about him or her.

TOS Total Lines 29213
Kirk 9521 (32.59%)
captain 3057 (10.46%)
Spock 6046 (20.70%)
McCoy 2843 (9.73%)
Scott 1943 (6.65%)
Sulu 1071 (3.67%)
Uhura 858 (2.94%)
Chekov 649 (2.22%)


TNG Total Lines 63813
Picard 13060 (20.47%)
captain 3280 (5.14%)
Riker 7940 (12.44%)
Data 8129 (12.74%)
Worf 4685 (7.34%)
LaForge 4590 (7.19%)
Geordi 431 (0.68%)
Crusher 3551 (5.56%)
Troi 3398 (5.32%)
Pulaski 569 (0.89%)


Total DS9 Lines 67528
Sisko 9133 (13.52%)
Kira 5805 (8.60%)
Odo 5446 (8.06%)
Bashir 5371 (7.95%)
O'Brien 5310 (7.86%)
Quark 5182 (7.67%)
Dax 4320 (6.40%)
Rom 2979 (4.41%)
Worf 2461 (3.64%)
Jake 1932 (2.86%)
Garak 1766 (2.62%)
Nog 1567 (2.32%)


Total Voyager Lines 68322
Janeway 11921 (17.45%)
captain 2993 (4.38%)
Chakotay 6251 (9.15%)
EMH 6068 (8.88%)
Doctor 1119 (1.64%)
Paris 5617 (8.22%)
Tuvok 5444 (7.97%)
Seven 5041 (7.38%)
Kim 4761 (6.97%)
Harry 508 (0.74%)
Torres 4579 (6.70%)
Neelix 3852 (5.64%)


Total Enterprise Lines 34298
Archer 8701 (25.37%)
captain 1440 (4.20%)
T'Pol 4698 (13.70%)
Tucker 4493 (13.10%)
Reed 2758 (8.04%)
Phlox 2212 (6.45%)
Hoshi 1740 (5.07%)
Travis 1485 (4.33%)
Xindi 145 (0.42%)
Suliban 87 (0.25%)

Malcolm 164 (0.48%)
Mayweather 49 (0.14%)
Sato 43 (0.13%)

An outline story of DS9 would revolve around a Starfleet Commander predestined to transform into a god of an alien culture. The writers get there with pretty good ensemble character balance and moderate reliance on guest stars. The 3rd tier character development in DS9 is excellent, while Sisko obviously isn't ignored.

An outline story of Enterprise would be about the early usage of the namesake ship to lay the groundwork for an interplanetary alliance. It gets there by heavily focusing on a single man. So any negative views of the individual reflect upon the story, and vica-versa any negative views of the story reflect upon the individual regardless the merits of some criticism.
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