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Old November 15 2013, 06:46 PM   #17
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Re: On Second Thought....

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It IS pretty pro-nuTrek compared to other places I've posted. I was actually very surprised when I found that out here by looking at the polls with "A" scoring the most, and then the many members who posted showing great support Abrams, Orci, Kurtzman, Lindelof, "box office success!", "they scored high on Rotten Tomatoes!". Over at CHUD, they're usually referred to as The Four Horsemen, mainly because all of their output along with nuTrek has been recognized as awful and that they tend to push aside better/talented writers out of projects because they have more power in Hollywood due to box office successes.
Rotten Tomatoes with 230,000+ people voting is a far more statistically significant sample than either the 700 people who have voted here or the 100 people who voted at the Vegas Con and likely far more than voted at CHUD.com (whatever that is).
I was talking about the consensus in forums I visit compared to this one, that's all. You don't have to remind me of the RT rating. I'm simply giving an observation from personal experience, not using their consensus to prove that nuTrek is actually terrible.

Some people here seem offended that Abrams and Company have made Star Trek fun and accessible to general audiences again. Which I really don't understand and probably never will. Is it really their fault that Trek got so bogged down in minutiae that it drove general audiences away?
Here's the thing: I don't care what general audiences think of Trek at all, so I'm not at all offended that they like nuTrek. If they like it, fine. I'm glad they got something out of it. I don't like nuTrek. This isn't me being some sort of contrarian, it's going by my own gut, my own opinion. What most audiences think is "fun and accessible" (TRANSFORMERS) I call dumb and obnoxious, and nuTrek isn't really all that different to my eyes. I'll give the films credit when they get things right, as I don't trash them entirely. I love the opening of STID, and I wish the film had been more like that rather than dredging up Khan because "he's Star Trek's Joker". I also wish that these films wouldn't be so damned insistent on cramming as much action as they do every couple of minutes just to fill in time for what is (in my opinion) a very weak story.
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