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Old November 8 2013, 08:28 PM   #239
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Re: Arrow - Season 2

JD wrote: View Post
Right, because it's not like the (Black) Canary isn't a major part of the Green Arrow mythos, who deserves to play a major role in a show focused on Green Arrow.
Black Canary, Dinah Laurel Lance, the superhero trained by Wildcat and who took up her mothers superhero name, is a big part of the GA myhtos. Canary, Sarah Lance, the self admitted irresponsible woman who ends up becoming Black Canary as a result of becoming an assassin and spending several years murdering people? Not really part of the mythos.

Dinah in the Birds of Prey TV show was more like Black Canary than Sarah is. Sure, she had weird psychic powers, but she was a second generation hero, the daughter of that universe's original BC. She also was trying to be a hero and didn't kill people. While Arrow is a better TV show than BoP (although honestly I think that show is pretty good, even if it has some big flaws and is a bit to different for its own good), the Dinah from that version fits as BC more than sarah ever could. I need more than a name/somewhat similar powers to count someone as actually playing a pre exsisting character. Helena in Birds of Prey? Not playing any version of Huntress (Earth 2 or Post COIE) by any stretch of the imagination, even if she had the same name and shared some of the backstory with the E2 version. Ollie on Arrow? He feels like a version of Green Arrow. A kind of elseworlds version, sure, but I have no trouble believing that a GA like him could have exsisted back when DC comics was awesome. Sarah is like Helena, although honmestly with even less to connect her with any version of BC than Helena did with atleast one version of Huntress.

So, to me, sarah Lance is not a part of the Ga mythos. She's a somewhat interesting 2-3 episode subplot, but nothing to make a focus of the season, atleast not by herself. If it leads to an Ollie/Ra's confrontation, then I'd be more supportive. As it is, I'd be fine just seeing Sarah a few more times this season, but for the season in general moving on to different things.

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but I did find it kind of funny that less than a year after the accident Sarah was already a psycho assassin.
There was zero evidence of this.

She certainly turned evil fairly quickly.
Also, no evidence of this either.

So (once again) you jump to conclusions based on nothing but your silly assumptions.

So, a normal person would beat the crap out of Ollie for no reason, because "prisoners aren't allowed to talk"? I guess I just figured that was something an evil person did. I don't know why, but kicking the ass of someone who can't/won't fight back seems fairly evil, same thing with mistreating prisoners. Also, not actually being a prisoner herself means she's in league with the obviously evil guys holding Ollie on the boat.


I will admit that she may be faking because people are watching her or something, but still we know how she ends up, so its not too big a stretch to belive that she's already turned/ Plus, she might blame Ollie for whats happened, which could lead her to going against him fairly quickly.

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but I did find it kind of funny that less than a year after the accident Sarah was already a psycho assassin.
There was zero evidence of this.

She certainly turned evil fairly quickly.
Also, no evidence of this either.

So (once again) you jump to conclusions based on nothing but your silly assumptions.
So far we have seen that Sarah arrived on the boat, was brutalized, and then Ivo's intention was to use her in some kind of experiment.

Ivo? Is there a character with that name in the past sections (like I said, I tuned out a lot of the boat stuff)? I really hope its not a reference to Professor Ivo, because if they use him I'd actually like to see Ivo the mad scientist, and maybe even Amazo (probably far down the line, after the Flash/super powers are introduced). Ivo the generic evil scientist would be kind of lame.
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