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Old October 28 2013, 03:09 AM   #492
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Re: Do fans want the prime timeline back? Part 2: Poll edition.

BigJake wrote: View Post
Geoff Peterson wrote: View Post
It's probably 75% pulp. Roddenberry's idea of what constitutes SF seems to come more from the pulps than the more "sophisticated" branches of the genre.
Could be. A few of Roddenberry's ideas were great, many were goofy, many were truly awful, I'd question how many of them were that indebted to pulp.

Or at least to strictly sci-fi pulp. Mixtures of different grades and types of pulp are also definitely in there; he was open about wanting to basically do Gunsmoke and/or Naked City and/or Wagon Train in an SF setting, all of which arguably had their own particular admixtures of different brands of pulp. Indeed even when he was doing call-outs to the "classics" or to Shakespeare... when you really think about it, Shakespeare was the pulp of his day, it was only the craftsmanship of his poetry that ultimately elevated him above his peers. So you could maybe say that Trek was 75% mongrel pulp.
Remember that at the time when Gene Roddenberry et. al were creating Star Trek, the written science fiction genre was undergoing a change. The '60s was a time when there was a trend toward publishing whole novels or anthologies in paperback form, instead of in the pulp magazines. However, it wasn't yet so prevalent that Roddenberry would have been that familiar with anything but the pulp magazines (and of course SF wasn't the only genre that had its own magazines - crime and western stories had theirs too).

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I wouldn't mind the Prime Timeline coming back on Television - provided that the show be given the Battlestar Galactica reboot treatment. I would love to see a Girl J. T. Kirk and girl Spock and all that ... set in the universe we otherwise know and love. Having said that, I think J.J. Abrams was the right man for the right job, as far as the movies are concerned. Nicely done ...
This is most of the reason I can't stand nuBSG. The pointless sex changes for some of the characters made it seem as though all the producers wanted was the character names as a hook to get the original BSG fans to tune in, and otherwise they'd make up any damn thing whether it had to do with the original characters or not.

If they did that to Star Trek... well, it would pretty much be like the fanfic that already explored this concept over 30 years ago.
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