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Old October 11 2013, 10:16 AM   #14
M.A.C.O.
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Re: The Borg

King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: View Post
I love "Regeneration". It's a lot of fun to watch. Those who can't enjoy it because it messes with their notions of continuity are watching Trek wrong.

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I don't really my the continuity problems from 'Regeneration'. Mostly because I consider the ENT timeline to be an AU created from the effects of FC. Time travel was used to rewrite established history. Similar to what we see in ST09 with Nero and Spock.
I like that theory. That way neither ENT or NuTrek have any impact on proper Trek
Except canon explicitly states that is not the case.

From VOY: "Relativity"...

DUCANE: Let's see how much you've assimilated. The Dali paradox.

SEVEN: Also known as the Melting Clock Effect. It refers to a temporal fissure which slows the passage of time to a gradual halt.

DUCANE: The Pogo Paradox.

SEVEN: A causality loop in which interference to prevent an event actually triggers the same event.

DUCANE: Excellent. Can you give me an example?

SEVEN: The Borg once travelled back in time to stop Zefram Cochrane from breaking the warp barrier. They succeeded, but that in turn led the Starship Enterprise to intervene. They assisted Cochrane with the flight the Borg was trying to prevent. Causal loop complete.

DUCANE: So, in a way, the Federation owes its existence to the Borg.

SEVEN: You're welcome.
Didn't we discuss this in another thread recently? http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=212872 Lol

'Relativity' takes the liberties with a lot Trek canon.

Such as the first time the Doctor was activated. The Doctor himself says he was first activated during the Caretaker situation, in the episode 'Projections'. 'Relativity' contradicts that.

In "Future's End', Captain Braxton says he has no memories of being stranded in the 20th century. Yet in 'Relativity' he says he does remember that life.

In 'Caretaker' Janeway says she wants Tom Paris to help her find the Maqui. In 'Relativity' it's changed to wanting him for his piloting skills. Despite him never piloting the ship in the Badlands


The biggest problem with Seven's statement is there is no way for her to have that information. She can't possibly know that the Borg would both succeed and fail to assimilate Earth. As far as FC goes, the Borg never managed to send a message to the Delta Quad. Picard and Worf destroyed the dish before they could send a signal. It's a goof by the writers like the other goofs listed above with regards to this episode.

ENT 'Regeneration" does help seal the gaps in Seven's assessment of history. However with Relativity airing years before ENT inception. Seven's remark about it all being a pogo paradox is a bit of a goof.

Lastly if the Borg never traveled back in time to thwart Cochrane, then the flight of the Phoenix would've gone off without a snag. I don't think that is a causality loop.
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