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Old October 4 2013, 11:38 PM   #86
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Re: Yesterday's Enterprise: How is the Federation Losing So Badly?

blssdwlf wrote: View Post
And you still lack any evidence that a significant part of the fleet was NOT involved in those military programs.
Irrelevant: even if all of them were involved in a military program, only the ones who were not also involved in the scientific and exploration programs would have to stand down.

So according to you, how many had to stand down?

It's perfectly relevant since she wanted to know if Starfleet was affected
No she didn't. No more than Cartwright was protesting the idea of offering Klingons "safe haven within Federation space." That, too, was a strawman argument.

You're the one with the strawman. Her question is perfectly valid even if you don't like the answer.
The answer was "no". I therefore like it just fine.

By answering that CERTAIN programs would not be affected it tells us that the REMAINING programs will be affected.
It doesn't tell us that at all. Only that certain programs won't be affected. He doesn't say -- and at this point, cannot really know -- if anything else will.

Crazy Eddie wrote: View Post
Begging the question: IS there a separate military program? No such distinction has ever been made in Star Trek, especially in TUC.
Colonel West is wearing a Starfleet uniform and he's rather military...
Unless Colonel West is a separate military program, this does not answer the question.

Crazy Eddie wrote: View Post
So again: what part of Starfleet ISN'T involved in scientific research and exploration?
To answer you, it's the part that isn't necessary to be always available to wage war against the Klingons.
You're just being contrary now.


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