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Old September 17 2013, 07:37 AM   #202
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Re: What Happens After Death

thestrangequark wrote: View Post
Gryffindorian wrote: View Post
I've always been fascinated with astronomy and cosmology. And to quote one of the scientists from How the Universe Works (or Through the Wormhole): "We are all stardust," born of supernovae that created the spark of life. So ashes to ashes, stardust to stardust ...
It was Sagan who famously said “The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.”

And this is, I guess, why I don't personally understand religion. And I am speaking in very broad terms here -- I know what follows does not apply to all religions or all believers: I can understand how religion is likely to have evolved, but I don't understand the drive to believe. Isn't the natural world enough? Isn't it beautiful, bizarre, curious, and profound enough on its own? Why must we cling to a supernatural, when there is so much wonder yet to be understood. To me, our habit of "projecting our own nature onto nature," to quote Sagan once more, seems trivializing, and it is the height of arrogance to imagine that it was all created just for us.
THIS. So much this. I think I was all off of seven or eight years old when I started going trough the science section in the school's library. I had already stopped believing in any kind of almighty God a year or so before, but I didn't really hit me why until I started going trough these books. It's because reality is more wondrous then the most beautiful fiction. Because the things we know already are so fantastic, how fantastic will not the things we are yet to discover be? What things might we not yet learn from the universe around us?

Look, I get that faith is something important to people. I agree that it is. But to me there's a stark difference between faith and religion. I have faith. Faith in my family, in myself at the best of days, and while it may sound naive ad optimistic, that there are good in many people. But the things that have been done and are being done in the name of religion frighten me.

Wow, that got real heavy. Conclusion: openness and discovery good, backward striving and hate bad. Oh and I should just get a tattoo of a "pale blue dot" and see how many get it.

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I guess I sort of get that. I mean, I really wish there were an afterlife. But I wish I had great legs and a billion dollars too.
I kinda don't. I mean, yes, it's a fascinating thought and I would in all honesty want to the loved ones that are lost from me again. But that would somehow, to me, diminish this struggle that my current life is. Which sounds a bit fuzzy, I know, but that's how I feel.

Also, I never got to that when me met since you where so tired and didn't want to be all flirtatiously annoying, but honey, there ain't a thing wrong with your body
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