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Old September 17 2013, 03:11 AM   #238
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Re: Scaling the Excelsior Filming Model

137th Gebirg wrote: View Post
I suspect that if the situation became necessary to jettison the A/M pods or the core, the ship would be doing anything BUT accelerating.
Ha, you make a good point.

Workbee wrote: View Post
Does the Excelsior MSD from TUC reveal any helpful information here? I have been unsuccessfully trying to locate an image of it sufficient resolution. I was able to find one in the past, but somehow my searching skills are failing me today.
Do you mean the dorsal MSD? I don't have an image of the graphic, but here's a compilation of screenshots from TUC. ("Flashback" offered nothing.) Click to embiggen.


Or perhaps you meant these, which I believe are from the turbolifts in "Flashback"? I'm not sure if they are the real deal, but they appear to be warmed over versions of the Enterprise-B cross-section. Click to embiggen.



Thinking a little more about warp propulsion systems, their evolution, and how they fit into the Great Experiment, I see it this way:
  1. NX-01: single reactor setup, complex accelerator system
  2. NCC-1701: multi reactor setup, small control reactor in the hull which is used to prime and regulate larger primary propulsion reactors in the engines; all three reactors interconnected
  3. NCC-1701 (refit): multi reactor setup, larger swirl core (replacing reactor) serves as primary intermix chamber in the hull connecting two smaller secondary reactors in the engines; swirl core serves as connection between nacelle reactors
Then the 4th step is Excelsior, and I can see that going one of two ways:
  1. The Excelsior negates nacelle reactors for a larger swirl core powering everything
  2. The Excelsior negates nacelle reactors AND replaces a swirl core with a TNG style core that powers everything
Either way, the biggest thing with the Excelsior in the evolutionary chain will be that it negates nacelle reactors.

With that, here are the two options.

Option One, Swirl Core:

This has primary deuterium tankage under the impulse engines, secondary tanks in the neck, and antimatter tanks in the humpback. While I suppose the vertical core could be ejected, it would leave a hell of a lot more inside the ship horizontally.

Option One, TNG Core:

This has primary deuterium tankage under the impulse engines, secondary tanks in the neck, and antimatter tanks above the deflector alcove. (Humpback tanks wouldn't work for the TNG style core, without long lines feeding it which IMO are impractical.) There's a step down in the PTC, but I think it's reasonable.

Option Two, Swirl Core:

This has primary deuterium tankage under the impulse engines, secondary tanks in the neck, and antimatter tanks in the keel (although they could also go in the humpback, I suppose, but this would make the vertical section kind of pointless.) The main shuttlebay is actually mostly remained intact by moving the vertical section forward a bit, and the deflector still fits.

Option Two, TNG Core:

This has primary deuterium tankage under the iimpulse engines, secondary tanks near the secondary hull flattop, and antimatter tanks in the keel. Again, the main shuttlebay is actually mostly remained intact by moving the core forward a bit, and the deflector still fits. There's a step-up in the PTC, but again I don't find it unreasonable.

On a side note, I've just discovered the fifteenth deck in the secondary hull of the 467 meter ship reasonably aligns to where it was depicted in "Generations"... or at least close enough if we assume Scotty and company's balcony was on deck 13. Lettered saucer decks, anyone?

And in case anyone notices, in all of these I moved the horizontal PTC down a bit to the "middle" where it seems to just make more sense.

Thoughts on the warp reactor setup?
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