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Old September 16 2013, 10:19 PM   #229
Robert Comsol
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Re: Scaling the Excelsior Filming Model

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That would follow, yes. Does anyone have a good close-up view of the deflector area of the original miniature? It's possible they might have thought of this and inscribed an area in the top of the deflector housing to infer a core/antimatter emergency ejection hatch, like what is shown in the Jackill's version.
I think the only great pictures of that area that exist are from its life as the Lakota - and we can be fairly certain that the area was repainted when the add-ons were added, as the deflector dish itself was also replaced.
No offense, but I believe there is a half-written law in starship design according to which antimatter pods are to be located in sections aboard a ship from where these can easily be ejected in case of antimatter confinement failure - and ejecting an antimatter pod assembly right in front of a high-energetic deflection beam looks like a very bad idea.

I'm getting increasingly suspicious that some participating in this thread are (deliberately?) unaware of the official TMP Enterprise cutaway, drawn by David Kimble who also drew the Official TMP Blueprints, both items have been authenticated and approved by Andrew Probert.

The cutaway shows the "antimatter pods" at the bottom part of the engineering hull (that was the text annotation of the first TMP print of this magnificent cutaway). It stands to reason (we are still in the 23rd Century for starters?) that the space for these pods aboard the Excelsior will take up an equal amount of space in relation to the overall size.

So while we are discussing possible intermix shaft structures I fail to notice that the space required by the antimatter pods or the matter tanks is even an issue, but one, IMHO, that needs to be addressed first before doing these interesting schematics.

As for the practical location of the antimatter pods to be jettisoned in case of an emergency I can only see the bottom of the engineering hull (TMP Enterprise style) or the humpback between the nacelles (Crazy Eddie proposal?), but most definitely not in front of the nav deflector...

I have been suggesting (obviously in vain) that we should first try to figure out what some of the Excelsior structures are (like this unusual connecting neck which really looks like the proverbial sore thumb) or what these are not before concerning ourselves with interior details.
The only lead I can offer here is a similar but significantly smaller structure at the stern of the TMP Enterprise's connecting dorsal which reads "photon exhaust".

And while I agree that the TOS Enterprise had antimatter in the nacelles, I can't see any hint in the Kimble cutaway other than the bottom of the engineering hull.

Considering that the front of the Enterprise's, Reliant's and Stargazer's nacelles had these "space-energy/matter sinks" I wouldn't exclude the possibility that the M/AM reaction for the warp drive occurs in the nacelles (or elsewhere in the shaft where and when required) but the actual location for the antimatter pods has been pretty much settled by Kimble and Probert so I don't see the necessity for second-guessing.

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