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Old September 16 2013, 10:47 PM   #479
Locutus of Bored
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Re: Breaking Bad Final Half Season

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Uh, yeah he did. First by being related to him and operating under his nose for so long, then by threatening him in the garage, and finally by blackmailing him with the video.
The blackmail is the only thing there that is any kind of coercion, but Hank was doing things the wrong way well before that.

You say Hank would have been suspended or taken off the case. Good, that's what should have happened! Maybe then he'd still be alive, and maybe then the case might have actually been solved with what evidence he did present. Looking at the way things are going, it doesn't look like there's going to be any legitimate justice that's going to be served up anyways. And I bet a lot of what they had against Walt probably wasn't even admissible because of their methods.
You don't think Walt threatening Hank in the garage is a form of coercion? Seriously?

Being related to Hank isn't an overt form of coercion on Walt's part (although it's also his fault since he knew going into that line of work could drag his family through the mud), yet it forced Hank's hand nonetheless by putting him in an unwinnable situation. No matter how it went down, his career was ruined. That's why he wanted to collect some hard evidence before it got ruined.

You say "Good, that's what should have happened" in regard to Hank being suspended or taken off the case, but you can't see how that easier for you to say as an outside observer rather than someone who would be directly involved and affected by it? Hank believes that he is best qualified to bring down Walt (and he was probably right about that) and in the best position to collect solid evidence on him. Hank also doesn't want his career (and extended family) to be ruined without taking down the guy who ruined it first.

Hank could have chosen to go to the DEA at first, but it probably would have meant that Walt got away with it and it definitely would have ruined Hank's career
I don't understand this, how would it ruin his career if Walt gets away with it? Like if there isn't good evidence for it, how does that equate to the end of his career? Because it's a bad accusation? The career-ending stuff was always tied in to him being closely related to an actual drug dealer, not just falsely accusing someone of being one.
That's not what I said. I said Hank's career would be ruined simply by reporting to the DEA that his brother-in-law was Heisenberg no matter what. He was never going to get another promotion again. It might have mitigated things a bit if Walt was captured and convicted by the DEA, and maybe years down the line people would forget about Hank's oversight, but he still was never going to advance in his job or be fully trusted by the higher ups again.

What I was saying was that if Hank went straight to the DEA, Walt probably would have gotten away with his crimes, because Hank (the best person to catch Walt in his view) would have been taken off the case, and the lackluster circumstantial evidence he had at that point wouldn't have been enough to take down Walt before he found a way to escape with all the money.

By the way, I'm not saying Hank didn't make any mistakes or do any wrong here, I'm just challenging your claim that he wasn't forced into going rogue by Walt at all. Plainly he was. He could have done things by the book, but voluntarily ruining your own career is hardly not being forced in any way.
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